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wizwantcupcake is not online. wizwantcupcake
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01 Jan 2015 01:37 PM
http://infidels.org/library/modern/quentin_smith/atheism.html

Stop starting all these flame-wars about religion, okay?
We have our theory, you have yours.

Goodbye.

-Chop Suey, whoops.
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01 Jan 2015 01:38 PM
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01 Jan 2015 01:38 PM
that's what they all say
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01 Jan 2015 01:38 PM
Good, because I'll keep posting this over and over again.

You're just mad I actually found something to hold against you.

-Chop Suey, whoops.
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01 Jan 2015 01:39 PM
big bang:

Here is how the Big Bang is often presented:

"Somewhere between 18 and 20 billion years ago, all of the matter in the universe was compressed into a tiny space no larger than the dot on a page. This dot spun faster and faster until it exploded, thus creating the Universe and everything in it."

There are many problems with this theory. And the theory itself still does not answer many important questions - Such as where did all the matter in the universe come from?

If all the matter in the universe was compressed into a small dot, what caused this to happen? Where did gravity come from that held it together?

If this "dot" spun rapidly until it exploded., then where did the energy come from to start the spinning?

Also, in an environment without friction you would have this spinning dot going so fast it would then explode. If this happened, then all of the particles and matter being expelled from this "spinning dot" would all have to spin in the same direction as the dot they exploded from.

This is a known law of science, which those who believe in Evolution cannot do away with. It is known as the Conservation of angular momentum.

This matter which is said to have created the planets would all need to spin in the same direction as the object it came from.


So therefore, all of the planets should be spinning in the same direction.

However two of them are not. Venus and Uranus spin backwards.

Some planets even have moons that not only spin backwards, but travel backward around their planets.


The Big Bang theory also ignores the First law of Thermodynamics, which says:
"matter cannot be created or destroyed"

Those who believe in the Big Bang theory are also either unaware of, or ignore the "Second Law of Thermodynamics" which says:
"Everything tends towards disorder"

So rather than the chaos (big bang) becoming ordered (our universe), just the opposite would be true.. And it is. Our complex universe is wearing down, and becoming more chaotic...

Paul was aware of this when he wrote his letter to the Hebrews:
Everything ".. waxes old like a garment" (quoted in both Psalm 102:25-27, and also Hebrews 1:10-12).

"This verse "anticipates the famous second law of thermodynamics, or law of entropy, indicating that everything in the physical universe is growing old and wearing out. God created everything in the beginning, winding it up like a great clock, so to speak. Because of sin and the curse, however, it has been running down and "perishing" ever since. Jesus also said: "Heaven and earth shall pass away" (literally, "are passing away") (Matthew 24:35)" - Waxing Old, like a Garment by Henry Morris, Ph.D.

Things wear down. Nothing gets better by itself.

If I told you that thousands of pieces of timber were set in motion by a tornado in a lumberyard and this ultimately resulted in the amazing design and complexity of the house you live in, you would think this was absurd to say the very least.


Yet in essence this is what the Big Bang theory teaches.

Now I know that anyone with kids might say that a tornado ripped through their room - but the tornado did not create their room. It only created the mess that is throughout the room. Will the mess ever get cleaned up? Yes, but it will not cleaned up by itself.

Even if millions of years of tornados did somehow randomly land in a complex pattern thus assembling your room, this would still not explain where the trees came from that were made into the lumber.

It would not explain who planted, or cut the trees, or even how the trees grew.

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01 Jan 2015 01:40 PM
op is a master baiter
bait last night
bait today
bait everywhere
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FELlNE is not online. FELlNE
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01 Jan 2015 01:40 PM
"You're just mad I actually found something to hold against you."

im not even a christian
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01 Jan 2015 01:41 PM
"You're just mad I actually found something to hold against you."

i wasn't even in any thread relevant to religion noob
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wizwantcupcake is not online. wizwantcupcake
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01 Jan 2015 01:41 PM
"It would not explain who planted, or cut the trees, or even how the trees grew."

Trees.
Serioulsy?
We're talking about religion and TREES have something to do with it?
Yupppppp, okay.

http://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2008/07/24/how-did-life-on-earth-get-started



-Chop Suey, whoops.
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developersplosion is not online. developersplosion
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01 Jan 2015 01:43 PM
"who created god"

By definition, the Christian God never came into existence; that is, He is the uncaused cause (Psalm 90:2). He was always in existence, and He is the one who created space, time, and matter. This means that the Christian God is the uncaused cause and is the ultimate creator. This eliminates the infinite regression problem.

this is the christian 'theory'

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01 Jan 2015 01:44 PM
"Trees.
Serioulsy?
We're talking about religion and TREES have something to do with it?
Yupppppp, okay."
big bang = science
i'm using your science and logic against you, and you claim its wrong.

basic athiest logic 101

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01 Jan 2015 01:45 PM
Your 'Holy Bible.' has collapsed on itself.


A funny post that should make you laugh: https://www.google.com/search?q=the+holy+bible+collapsed+on+itself&biw=1366&bih=667&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=sKOlVPPFL4eoNonHgeAH&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAw#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=IqvUD-SDZlN1dM%253A%3BFRSO1ySCqXgXOM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmedia-cache-ec0.pinimg.com%252F736x%252F9b%252Fa7%252F0e%252F9ba70e0ddf3f53435949690e924503d6.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.gopixpic.com%252F460%252Fthe-bible-just-collapsed-on-itself%252Fhttp%253A%25257C%25257Cmedia-cache-ec0*pinimg*com%25257C736x%25257C9b%25257Ca7%25257C0e%25257C9ba70e0ddf3f53435949690e924503d6*jpg%252F%3B460%3B172


-Chop Suey, whoops.
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developersplosion is not online. developersplosion
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01 Jan 2015 01:45 PM
you claim this is wrong:

"Yet in essence this is what the Big Bang theory teaches.

Now I know that anyone with kids might say that a tornado ripped through their room - but the tornado did not create their room. It only created the mess that is throughout the room. Will the mess ever get cleaned up? Yes, but it will not cleaned up by itself.

Even if millions of years of tornados did somehow randomly land in a complex pattern thus assembling your room, this would still not explain where the trees came from that were made into the lumber.

It would not explain who planted, or cut the trees, or even how the trees grew."

thats what the big bang teaches, by claiming its wrong, you're implying the big bang is wrong.

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developersplosion is not online. developersplosion
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01 Jan 2015 01:47 PM
"Your 'Holy Bible.' has collapsed on itself."
you're changing the subject, why?
because i just used science against you?

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wizwantcupcake is not online. wizwantcupcake
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01 Jan 2015 01:47 PM
No, because you brought several verses into this thread.


-Chop Suey, whoops.
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01 Jan 2015 01:48 PM
she is master baiting all over you dev
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01 Jan 2015 01:50 PM
once again op, i disproved your theory in my post.

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developersplosion is not online. developersplosion
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01 Jan 2015 01:51 PM
i'll just post this again, and hope you accept it.

Here is how the Big Bang is often presented:

"Somewhere between 18 and 20 billion years ago, all of the matter in the universe was compressed into a tiny space no larger than the dot on a page. This dot spun faster and faster until it exploded, thus creating the Universe and everything in it."

There are many problems with this theory. And the theory itself still does not answer many important questions - Such as where did all the matter in the universe come from?

If all the matter in the universe was compressed into a small dot, what caused this to happen? Where did gravity come from that held it together?

If this "dot" spun rapidly until it exploded., then where did the energy come from to start the spinning?

Also, in an environment without friction you would have this spinning dot going so fast it would then explode. If this happened, then all of the particles and matter being expelled from this "spinning dot" would all have to spin in the same direction as the dot they exploded from.

This is a known law of science, which those who believe in Evolution cannot do away with. It is known as the Conservation of angular momentum.

This matter which is said to have created the planets would all need to spin in the same direction as the object it came from.


So therefore, all of the planets should be spinning in the same direction.

However two of them are not. Venus and Uranus spin backwards.

Some planets even have moons that not only spin backwards, but travel backward around their planets.


The Big Bang theory also ignores the First law of Thermodynamics, which says:
"matter cannot be created or destroyed"

Those who believe in the Big Bang theory are also either unaware of, or ignore the "Second Law of Thermodynamics" which says:
"Everything tends towards disorder"

So rather than the chaos (big bang) becoming ordered (our universe), just the opposite would be true.. And it is. Our complex universe is wearing down, and becoming more chaotic...

Paul was aware of this when he wrote his letter to the Hebrews:
Everything ".. waxes old like a garment" (quoted in both Psalm 102:25-27, and also Hebrews 1:10-12).

"This verse "anticipates the famous second law of thermodynamics, or law of entropy, indicating that everything in the physical universe is growing old and wearing out. God created everything in the beginning, winding it up like a great clock, so to speak. Because of sin and the curse, however, it has been running down and "perishing" ever since. Jesus also said: "Heaven and earth shall pass away" (literally, "are passing away") (Matthew 24:35)" - Waxing Old, like a Garment by Henry Morris, Ph.D.

Things wear down. Nothing gets better by itself.

If I told you that thousands of pieces of timber were set in motion by a tornado in a lumberyard and this ultimately resulted in the amazing design and complexity of the house you live in, you would think this was absurd to say the very least.


Yet in essence this is what the Big Bang theory teaches.

Now I know that anyone with kids might say that a tornado ripped through their room - but the tornado did not create their room. It only created the mess that is throughout the room. Will the mess ever get cleaned up? Yes, but it will not cleaned up by itself.

Even if millions of years of tornados did somehow randomly land in a complex pattern thus assembling your room, this would still not explain where the trees came from that were made into the lumber.

It would not explain who planted, or cut the trees, or even how the trees grew.

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01 Jan 2015 01:52 PM
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01 Jan 2015 01:52 PM
tl;dr.

I'm sticking with my post, God isn't a real thing! It's a myth!

He's been disproved many times. ;)

-Chop Suey, whoops.
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01 Jan 2015 01:54 PM
"I'm sticking with my post, God isn't a real thing! It's a myth!

He's been disproved many times. ;)"

translation: "i'm not gonna read all your proof because i dont want to be proven wrong ;)"
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01 Jan 2015 01:55 PM
If OP said God isn't real during dinner her mom would woop her ass
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01 Jan 2015 01:55 PM
"I'm sticking with my post, God isn't a real thing! It's a myth!"

brb going to the bunker

you are welcome to join before the flaming commences

po pi po
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wizwantcupcake is not online. wizwantcupcake
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01 Jan 2015 01:55 PM
@Ceil

Nah, I'm just a lazy german.
:P

Why don't you think I'm not really throwing anything out there... hmm?
because,i'm lazy.

-Chop Suey, whoops.
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