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Re: Do people really not make backups of their stuff?

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christmas2k14 is not online. christmas2k14
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25 Dec 2014 04:48 PM
I have over 10,000 pictures from up to 5 years ago, and I make iCloud backups of my phone, iPad, and ipods every day. Everything else goes on Dropbox
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IridiumFlare is not online. IridiumFlare
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25 Dec 2014 04:49 PM
>cloud backups


Yes just give all of your stuff to the NSA. I do local backups because cloud services don't respect user privacy.
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christmas2k14 is not online. christmas2k14
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25 Dec 2014 04:53 PM
"Yes just give all of your stuff to the NSA. I do local backups because cloud services don't respect user privacy."

iCloud is encrypted and it is reported the government is mad they can't access it anymore

Most of my Dropbox data is encrypted. Everything else not important is free to be stolen
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IridiumFlare is not online. IridiumFlare
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25 Dec 2014 05:02 PM
"iCloud is encrypted"

>implying the NSA doesn't have the keys to decrypt it
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christmas2k14 is not online. christmas2k14
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25 Dec 2014 05:04 PM
">implying the NSA doesn't have the keys to decrypt it"

I don't think you understand how encryption works
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SundownMKII is not online. SundownMKII
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25 Dec 2014 05:05 PM
how to win
1tb external drive w/ usb 3.0 connection

resident furball | disturbing noob
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IridiumFlare is not online. IridiumFlare
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25 Dec 2014 05:05 PM
I don't think you do. The NSA works with companies that produce encryption algorithms to make them purposely weak and they could easily force them to hand over the keys. Companies can be forced to work with them and won't be able to talk about it due to gag orders.
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christmas2k14 is not online. christmas2k14
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25 Dec 2014 05:08 PM
"1tb external drive w/ usb 3.0 connection"

10 tb RAID system with firewire

"The NSA works with companies that produce encryption algorithms to make them purposely weak and they could easily force them to hand over the keys"

Apple and Dropbox don't do this though.
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IridiumFlare is not online. IridiumFlare
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25 Dec 2014 05:10 PM
How can you know this? If they did they wouldn't be able to tell you.
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christmas2k14 is not online. christmas2k14
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25 Dec 2014 05:13 PM
"How can you know this? If they did they wouldn't be able to tell you."

They can tell you. You realize that if something is encrypted to where the company can not open it, then it is perfectly legal to keep the government out of it. Just like Apple and Dropbox
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Destryc is not online. Destryc
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25 Dec 2014 05:13 PM
"Apple and Dropbox don't do this though."

How do you know for sure?
How do you know that Apple & Drop-box aren't lying about it so they don't get taken down by the NSA?

Where'd you get this info from?


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IridiumFlare is not online. IridiumFlare
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25 Dec 2014 05:15 PM
"They can tell you"

No they can't, that's the thing. When the NSA forces a company to give them access to their servers the company is given a gag order so they can't talk about it. Keep on trusting corporations that don't care about you though.
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25 Dec 2014 05:15 PM
#RAID
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christmas2k14 is not online. christmas2k14
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25 Dec 2014 05:16 PM
"How do you know that Apple & Drop-box aren't lying about it so they don't get taken down by the NSA?"

Apple and Dropbox were both given perfect ratings by the Electronic Frontier Foundation

Apple and Dropbox are transparent and very technical in documenting their security

If you've ever developed for iOS and Dropbox API, you'd know how safe it is
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christmas2k14 is not online. christmas2k14
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25 Dec 2014 05:17 PM
"When the NSA forces a company to give them access to their servers the company is given a gag order so they can't talk about it. Keep on trusting corporations that don't care about you though."

That's how it used to be dummy :-) However, it is a federal law that has been observed in court that if a software is encrypted and the company does not have the keys, they do not have to unlock it for the government

Come back without a tinfoil hat and a book next time
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IridiumFlare is not online. IridiumFlare
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25 Dec 2014 05:20 PM
"Come back without a tinfoil hat "


Nice ad hominem mate. I like how not trusting corporations makes me a tin foiler.


"However, it is a federal law that has been observed in court that if a software is encrypted and the company does not have the keys, they do not have to unlock it for the government"

[citation needed]

All I'm saying is unless the software they host their servers on is open source that has been thoroughly audited it can't be trusted.
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roniray is not online. roniray
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25 Dec 2014 05:20 PM
lol backups are for bags

MANLY MACHO MEN DONT BACK UP
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christmas2k14 is not online. christmas2k14
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25 Dec 2014 05:41 PM
"[citation needed]"

It's an actual law. Why would I be worried about having my phone data and 10,000 photos looked at
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Randomnessu is not online. Randomnessu
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25 Dec 2014 05:43 PM
"Why would I be worried about having my phone data and 10,000 photos looked at"

They can make new laws whenever they feel like it.
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IridiumFlare is not online. IridiumFlare
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25 Dec 2014 05:46 PM
"It's an actual law."

[citation needed]

"Why would I be worried about having my phone data and 10,000 photos looked at"

So I take it you wouldn't mind having cameras in your room for pervs to watch you because you don't care about privacy, which is a human right according to the UN.
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immaploxu is not online. immaploxu
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25 Dec 2014 05:52 PM
and here we observe the apple fanboy zombie
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IridiumFlare is not online. IridiumFlare
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25 Dec 2014 05:55 PM
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7589045 is not online. 7589045
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25 Dec 2014 06:51 PM
@OP
Government can easily access any photo, search history, or anything that is or ever WAS on your phone no matter what encryption. They can also see through the camera in your phone whether it's turned on or not.
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Destryc is not online. Destryc
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25 Dec 2014 06:55 PM
OP,
umm, have you seen the news lately? There were a bunch of leaked NUDE SELFIES released online by hackers.
Your data can be hacked.
mmk?



[Trying to think of a new siggy]
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7589045 is not online. 7589045
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25 Dec 2014 06:56 PM
Data, did you not read how they can see you track you and listen to you from a phone whenever they feel like it?
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