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LordMiltonious is not online. LordMiltonious
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24 Dec 2014 04:46 PM
"I don't see other clans like TGI diving head first into a defence and hoping to win in a 29 vs 1.

But hey, since its VAK, everyone on the bandwagon has got to join in"--clannotguilds
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the problem is, over the summer vak server flooded TGI, rodger ordered a defense, and it was 7v23

VAK lost.

over a 12 hour span it became a 15v15 and you lost, and it was spammed all over c&g, everyone knew about the big ass L VAK took lmao.


"Oh yes, let's totally send 5 people into a server with 25 raiders. That totally isn't sending ourselves into certain death ending with a loss.

We rally at kastro so we can get an organized squad, not a bunch of clueless VACs/VAK."--DemonTitan
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well, for one, why make it five VAK required to make a server official, if you won't defend with five. Why is it that you, and the rest of the VAKtovian Hi-com stated that the following superclans "immediate" conquest would be extremely easy, and that regardless if they accepted or not, they'd lose.

emphasis on the term lose, and easy okay guys.

VAK lost both of the first raids, within 2 hours of EL shouting lol.

focus on this http
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com/5k7l2j

Gannex shouts the above, to not defend unless ordered too :^/

not only has the hi-com lost faith that they can win easy, they've pretty much lost faith in general, and are now resorting to not defending.

tbh, that was shouted yesterday, then they proceeded to ESR EL, which EL kindly defended.

VAK is garbage, case closed.
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LordMiltonious is not online. LordMiltonious
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24 Dec 2014 04:48 PM
hasn't it been since 2010, that if a clan refuses to defend, it's considered a surrender.

at least the most recent war where I participated in rules like this, was the SC vs TGI/FC war.

so we had to defend everything.

technically, not only is VAK surrendering each server they refuse to defend, EL is looking twice as good by defending EVERY server from the supposed "dominant" clan on this site :^/
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Raethyr is not online. Raethyr
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24 Dec 2014 04:48 PM
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LordMiltonious is not online. LordMiltonious
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24 Dec 2014 04:48 PM
tl;dr VAK sucks and V O I D would have destroyed them [2]
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ezaiahs is not online. ezaiahs
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24 Dec 2014 04:50 PM
NFC will always defend if someone is online to shout :// or if im on and il just uh borrow a hrs acc for a few sec ;o


there we go rekt that argument


bye
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Imitater is not online. Imitater
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24 Dec 2014 04:51 PM
I HEARD ARCADIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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LordMiltonious is not online. LordMiltonious
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24 Dec 2014 04:51 PM
Ezaih, NFC>VAK
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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24 Dec 2014 04:52 PM
any clan that doesn't defend every server needs to go
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Dravum is not online. Dravum
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24 Dec 2014 04:52 PM
dude just join the debate team already
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LordMiltonious is not online. LordMiltonious
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24 Dec 2014 04:53 PM
any clan that doesn't defend every server needs to go [2]

dravum why would i do that, i'd win there too
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Imitater is not online. Imitater
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24 Dec 2014 04:53 PM
TGI > NFC

were you there about 2 months after the VAK war Tober declared war on NFC

after two days we went 30-0

they serverflooded SHII carried by VAK

servers were 50, 5 TGI required

42 raiders v 8 TGI

i was one of them

sweet jesus born tomorrow bless my sword rushing skills and the 40 kdr
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LordMiltonious is not online. LordMiltonious
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24 Dec 2014 04:54 PM
yaahhhh i remember that @imi
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Dravum is not online. Dravum
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24 Dec 2014 04:54 PM
you will bring great AWNA TO YER FAMIRY
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TheForumingFishstick is not online. TheForumingFishstick
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24 Dec 2014 04:54 PM
ok so first I believe the main argument is that it is Christmas Eve. If you intend to complain and say that they are doing other things on roblox or that you don't observe so they shouldn't observe, go ahead. But it's a valid excuse on VAK's side. Again, if they pulled this on a different date, I would back you.

--fishin for booty--
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Imitater is not online. Imitater
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24 Dec 2014 04:54 PM

42 raiders v 8 TGI

42 raiders v 8 TGI

42 raiders v 8 TGI

42 raiders v 8 TGI
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BuildingBrandon is not online. BuildingBrandon
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24 Dec 2014 04:55 PM
Only Usm Can Beat Vak!
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LordMiltonious is not online. LordMiltonious
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24 Dec 2014 04:55 PM
ok so first I believe the main argument is that it is Christmas Eve. If you intend to complain and say that they are doing other things on roblox or that you don't observe so they shouldn't observe, go ahead. But it's a valid excuse on VAK's side. Again, if they pulled this on a different date, I would back you

-----they pulled it yesterday, and this morning they rallied forty men (in the morning)

there is no excuse not to defend when you can rally fifty plus lol
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Raethyr is not online. Raethyr
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24 Dec 2014 04:55 PM
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Zakaevz is not online. Zakaevz
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24 Dec 2014 04:55 PM
Well to be honest I'm fairly disappointed with the current situation. Unfortunately I don't have a say in this since I haven't been active within the past few days, as well as it being Christmas Eve which makes my schedule even more busier.

Hell I'm even thinking about second choices.
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Raethyr is not online. Raethyr
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24 Dec 2014 04:57 PM
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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24 Dec 2014 04:57 PM
didnt vak raid tgi last xmas for like 8 hours

i dont think they can use that excuse
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LordMiltonious is not online. LordMiltonious
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24 Dec 2014 04:57 PM
Well to be honest I'm fairly disappointed with the current situation. Unfortunately I don't have a say in this since I haven't been active within the past few days, as well as it being Christmas Eve which makes my schedule even more busier.

Hell I'm even thinking about second choices.--takes a lot coming from you, because I know you've been loyal to the end man, and I remember going through VAC, cadets and the whole lot with you.

I even remember LS with you.

it's a shame the empires failed you, join conex yo
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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24 Dec 2014 04:58 PM
imitater go spread propaganda elsewhere

preferably to your tgi colleagues who would mindlessly buy into any statement that makes them feel like their clan is powerful
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Imitater is not online. Imitater
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24 Dec 2014 04:58 PM
yes i was there they refused to defend after that raid
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Imitater is not online. Imitater
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24 Dec 2014 04:59 PM
then there was the two wars later where wannabet kicked loads of raiders for fun :^(

still belmont is doing great with current nfc
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