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Re: TRA's winning "tactics"

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Blackmask2020 is not online. Blackmask2020
Joined: 18 Nov 2012
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22 Dec 2014 09:39 PM
And then tells TRA that all raids count so it's 8-3 in their favor. Wow.


What a leader.

[8:54:30 PM] Jack Bourne: Make it clear that it is 4-3
[8:54:32 PM] Jack Bourne: Not 8-3
[8:58:02 PM] KingconXII: Yet on the thread it says all wins from this point on count, so yeah they do count
[8:58:32 PM] KingconXII: And reading that thread it was worded so it couldent be changed whether I accept or decline
[8:58:38 PM] KingconXII: So it stands.
[8:58:42 PM] Jack Bourne: It's not 8-3.
[8:58:47 PM] Jack Bourne: it's 4-3.
[8:58:48 PM] KingconXII: It is I am affraid.
[8:58:53 PM] Jack Bourne: You're an idiot.
[8:58:54 PM] KingconXII: I have all the wins here
[8:58:57 PM] KingconXII: Thats charming
[8:59:04 PM] KingconXII: The war will be won tommorow, good bye
[8:59:34 PM] Jack Bourne: No you're not going to bulls**t us.
[8:59:43 PM] Jack Bourne: No f**k you.
[8:59:45 PM] Jack Bourne: Stop typing.
[8:59:49 PM] KingconXII: No, you tried it on me and it backfired xD
[8:59:53 PM] Jack Bourne: You made war terms and accepted.
[8:59:58 PM] KingconXII: So yes, we have 8 wins and tone down on the language

You literally asked for us to restart war score and then basically tried to bend the terms. Wow.

TRA is so slimy and low. It's okay though. It's 5-3 for TRA, but tomorrow. Well tomorrow I get to host raids. And I can assure you that 5-3 will turn into 10-5. :)


See you soon. :D
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GetClanned is not online. GetClanned
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22 Dec 2014 09:40 PM
so what's actually on the war terms
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gluReapers is not online. gluReapers
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22 Dec 2014 09:41 PM
-_-
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LordMiltonious is not online. LordMiltonious
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22 Dec 2014 09:41 PM
TRA did try to bend the war terms, ill come to those raids.

Call all my hittas, like lets get it, lets get it!
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Wussdwimp12 is not online. Wussdwimp12
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22 Dec 2014 09:42 PM
Uh, check the score again.
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ClanNotGuilds is not online. ClanNotGuilds
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22 Dec 2014 09:42 PM
We just won another raid anyway.
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Dalt2306 is not online. Dalt2306
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22 Dec 2014 09:42 PM
11-3
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ClanNotGuilds is not online. ClanNotGuilds
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22 Dec 2014 09:44 PM
I'd like to point out that your commander, campy, posted this term on the 20th. "Official raid wins will only count if they are earned directly after the time of posting this declaration, thereby rendering wins before that time null and void"

Since terms may only be changed with the approval of BOTH sides, the term of the raids counting from the post made on the 20th still stands.

Therefore the raids we have gained since then will count to the score and vice versa.
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Blackmask2020 is not online. Blackmask2020
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22 Dec 2014 09:46 PM
Clan we made official terms. From there the war started like ASKED by YOUR LEADER!
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Blackmask2020 is not online. Blackmask2020
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22 Dec 2014 09:47 PM
It's 6-3. If you wish to be slimy dogs I am sure campy and the rest of SC can do the same.
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ClanNotGuilds is not online. ClanNotGuilds
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22 Dec 2014 09:48 PM
The only terms in the thread that king made were base changes.

The main war terms were in the thread campy made.

We have not approved any other changes other than the ones we stated in our thread.

Therefore, like I said the term stating wins being valid from the post made on the 20th is still ACTIVE.

Have fun.
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SummerSurfer is not online. SummerSurfer
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22 Dec 2014 09:50 PM
since when did you become the voice of SC

Sleet Clan │ Roblox Infantry Unit │ CONEX
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ninja7869 is not online. ninja7869
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22 Dec 2014 09:50 PM
This happens in every war.
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Dalt2306 is not online. Dalt2306
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22 Dec 2014 09:51 PM
just face it its 11-3
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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22 Dec 2014 09:56 PM
UAF does not recognize any victories obtained by TRA before the official terms were negotiated, as per the precedent set by Kingcon in relation to the UAF-TRA war. If TRA wishes to count its pre-term wins against SC, I would love to adjust the UAF-TRA war score to a stunning 80-5 (or something of that nature).

I would like to remind TRA that King argued that the UAF-TRA war did not begin before the terms were negotiated, and that King used this as justification for switching Kaeru/Arboris and delaying combat for weeks on end.

That is all.
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thorhayes is not online. thorhayes
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22 Dec 2014 09:59 PM
Well all I can say is that in no forum does it state that the war score would be reset as Clan has already stated; besides, why would anyone agree to that in the first place. Let's look from a different perspective here, if SC was already in the lead in raid wins before TRA accepted, then I am positive that SC would refuse to change the war terms; let's be honest here, that rule was only added as I assume you were expecting an early lead in the war.

Although I have to admit the chat got out of proportion from both sides. Regardless of that its only a 4 raid win difference, if you want to show SC's power then it'll only be a bit more added pressure. Plus, stop having people leave Offical raids, it's harder to get people there then win there -_-
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ClanNotGuilds is not online. ClanNotGuilds
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22 Dec 2014 10:01 PM
This is about TRA and SC. Not UAF.

In our war it was not stated that wins would count from the declaration.

In this war however, it was. So it does count.
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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22 Dec 2014 10:03 PM
ClanNotGuilds, where? I can't seem to find the clause.

http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=152191172
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Blackmask2020 is not online. Blackmask2020
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22 Dec 2014 10:21 PM
False TRA is unbearable. It's becoming an issue. This war is no longer fun but stupid.
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ClanNotGuilds is not online. ClanNotGuilds
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22 Dec 2014 10:23 PM
@False

Here

http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=152060976

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Stormwalkah is not online. Stormwalkah
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22 Dec 2014 10:26 PM
"This war will begin on this day, December 22nd, 2014, at 14:00 CST/20:00 GMT."

-The war did not begin when you got your first win
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Blackmask2020 is not online. Blackmask2020
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22 Dec 2014 10:26 PM
Clan we made new terms and new things where set up. By. Your. Leader.
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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22 Dec 2014 10:27 PM
ClanNotGuilds, I would like to highlight one of the words in those terms. Nothing major, just a single word that you and the entire TRA HICOM seem to have missed.

"proposed"

The terms on the thread you linked were proposed, sir.

These are the official terms agreed upon by TRA and SC.
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=152191172

No link was provided to the declaration to indicate that those terms are official, so they must be presumed unofficial. Likewise, presuming that is the case means that TRA violated war terms for the entirety of the UAF-TRA war, for they violated number 3 of my provisional terms for a UAF-TRA war.

http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=148568856

Would you make up your mind and stop vascilating?
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thorhayes is not online. thorhayes
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22 Dec 2014 10:29 PM
You cannot say you are not responsible for the tone of the war.

I had high expectations for this war when I was raiding with TRAE. Eventully my raids were not responded to by SC and numerous people simply left even with 5/6 slots open; after hearing numerous excuses to why they shouldn't defend it was clear SC was playing their own little game. So, you not only wasted my time on so many occasions you wasted everyone else waiting for me. I dont see why we should be patient for you after your actions.
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ClanNotGuilds is not online. ClanNotGuilds
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22 Dec 2014 10:30 PM
The terms on king's thread were only for base changes.

The terms on campy's thread are the actual war terms which we've agreed to.

Campy has stated the term. Since it has not been approved for changing, it stays the same. Simple as.
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