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Re: Why I dislike sword clans.

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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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21 Dec 2014 12:14 AM
Let it be known that I have spent years with sword clans, and my input comes straight from 4 (regretful) years.

They all pretty much look the same, for starters.

Beveled logos with meaningless symbols. Generally uniforms are trench coats or dated vests from when Splecki made uniforms (lol).

I don't think I've ever seen a sword clan with an original, purely nice logo. As for the uniforms, same observation.

Swords require less skill to use than guns - I'm not trying to start a flame war. This is an observation. Debate me if you'd like to. Not saying that this is a bad thing, either. If you're bad with guns, and better with swords, go for it.

They kind of resemble the less popular kids at school. Altogether, they're irrelevant to the 'big picture' (major clans) due to the fact that 90% of them restrict themselves to only swords, which hurts the clan world as a whole. They do their own thing in the dark despite the equal or superior amount of success they could have as a well-developed gun clan.

Gun clans have significantly more opportunities and a lot more doors to choose from, aside from a linked sword. They're almost clones of each other.

Generally the technology is either absent or sub-par. There's no originality, really. There are few exceptions (Skilled Force has some nice stuff going for them), but generally, the building of their forts is sub-par (that or copied), and the only show of technology is a team change GUI I could have pulled from free models.

They get boring, in my opinion. I mean, I still use swords sometimes, but I don't go to a base every day just because it has a sword. I used to enjoy them, but now they're just tedious, and I'd much rather find myself exploring the diverse lands of gun clans.

They predominantly depend on activity/numbers. In practically all situations, a 30 player server which a defender requirement of 6 can be flooded with 24 average soldiers (mediocre sword fighters~), and they'd lose, not because they were outskilled, but because they were outnumbered. Unless the base is ridiculously unfair, or rigged in some way, this is often the case.

You can debate me on that, too. Ties can contribute to such a result, but even with an anti-tie mechanism, it is extremely difficult to defend a base when outnumbered 4-1, whether you're an above average sword fighter or not.

So um. To wrap it up, I dislike them because they're generally unoriginal, very similar to each other, underdeveloped, secluded, waste-of-space, progressively tedious, number dependent clans.

Those may seem like generic arguments, but you can't deny the truth in many of them.

I'll be up for debate in the morning. Haha.

-_- Just thought I'd post this since we're all on topic for once.


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SummerSurfer is not online. SummerSurfer
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21 Dec 2014 12:16 AM
nailed it

Sleet Clan │ Roblox Infantry Unit │ CONEX
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SparrowStorm is not online. SparrowStorm
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21 Dec 2014 12:17 AM
this
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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21 Dec 2014 12:17 AM
"They're almost clones of each other."

Referring to sword clans,
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Preantepenultimate is not online. Preantepenultimate
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21 Dec 2014 12:17 AM
it's not all about numbers
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ImNinja101 is not online. ImNinja101
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21 Dec 2014 12:18 AM
aeronium doesnt have an original logo?

lol?
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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21 Dec 2014 12:20 AM
"aeronium doesnt have an original logo?"

Hm not really. I see a sword in it because you're a sword clan but that's not exactly original lol.

"it's not all about numbers"

I said 'predominantly'.

Of course if you get flooded with some VIP clan like VE (say 7 months ago), you'd have a fun time raking in all the KOs because they don't know what mouselock or first person is on ROBLOX.
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Preantepenultimate is not online. Preantepenultimate
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21 Dec 2014 12:22 AM
o

i still dont think it's mainly on numbers though
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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21 Dec 2014 12:24 AM
I do.

NFC doesn't count because the defenders win the favor of gamepasses.

If those were removed, the defense win:loss ratio would be much different.

Not saying that gamepasses are bad. Without such an advantage, NFC would be a punching bag.
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Rainway is not online. Rainway
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21 Dec 2014 12:25 AM
No offense but this is highly bias...

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dracomanx is not online. dracomanx
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21 Dec 2014 12:25 AM
did not have like a 7 page argument about this before?

learn difference between a sword clan and sword only clan O_______________o
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Luscelle is not online. Luscelle
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21 Dec 2014 12:25 AM
I sort of agree here. Only a little though. I've always been a sword person.
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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21 Dec 2014 12:25 AM
How is it biased.

This is pure observation.

Lol.
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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21 Dec 2014 12:26 AM
punching bag, yeah?

i'd like to see you try.
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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21 Dec 2014 12:26 AM
"learn difference between a sword clan and sword only clan"

Wasn't I the one telling you to do that
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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21 Dec 2014 12:27 AM
Sorry WB, not argument for me. If I were your enemy I would certainly tell you to remove your gamepasses to see how you'd do against a clan of average fighters.
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Rainway is not online. Rainway
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21 Dec 2014 12:27 AM
"Beveled logos with meaningless symbols. Generally uniforms are trench coats or dated vests from when Splecki made uniforms (lol)."

Gun clans have beveled logos as well, not all sword clans have trench coats it is not some sort of standard or anything.


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dracomanx is not online. dracomanx
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21 Dec 2014 12:27 AM
idk i forgot which side of the argument i was on lol
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Rainway is not online. Rainway
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21 Dec 2014 12:28 AM
Not to mention, I could say the same thing for gun-clans. Most of them just have spammed Armor pads and crap.


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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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21 Dec 2014 12:28 AM
Is that all you had to point out Rainway.

Of course there are gun clans with beveled logos.

And yes I am aware that not all sword clans have trench coat uniforms.

This is a generalization.
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Preantepenultimate is not online. Preantepenultimate
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21 Dec 2014 12:28 AM
"I do.

NFC doesn't count because the defenders win the favor of gamepasses.

If those were removed, the defense win:loss ratio would be much different.

Not saying that gamepasses are bad. Without such an advantage, NFC would be a punching bag."


most NFC had the old vip for Fighter's topixa and we aren't using that vip for the current topixa

and i haven't seen much NFC using the gamepasses at the current topixa


no, we haven't been a punching bag
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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21 Dec 2014 12:29 AM
Spammed armor pads lol?

Most gun clan uniforms reflect upon their theme. TRA's traditional military, RAA/Fleetcom's Halo, etc.

"idk i forgot which side of the argument i was on lol"

Whatever the past is the past.
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Discourager is not online. Discourager
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21 Dec 2014 12:29 AM
Phew..you were worrying me for a little bit..thought youd turned into darkrider..
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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21 Dec 2014 12:30 AM
I didn't say NFC was a punching bag.
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Valhalas is not online. Valhalas
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21 Dec 2014 12:31 AM
Hm and like I said the things I said about uniforms and logos were generalizations that reflect (I personally think) upon a majority of the clans in question.
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