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Re: despire isn't a word right

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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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20 Dec 2014 11:06 PM
heard it's a mix between aspire and desire

idk

it's not a word though right?

because it's the name of one of my characters in my novel and i'm just wanting to see if there's any special meaning within it
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Randomnessu is not online. Randomnessu
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20 Dec 2014 11:07 PM
1. It looks like a portmanteau to me.

2. Please don't name your characters things like that. It's... really bad writing. Just a piece of advice.
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ArcheyeOfShadowclan is not online. ArcheyeOfShadowclan
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20 Dec 2014 11:08 PM
It's a nice name.

Never waste a moment; every moment can become a comedic moment!
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GarfieldruleZ4ev3r is not online. GarfieldruleZ4ev3r
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20 Dec 2014 11:08 PM
Despire...? No.
Despise? Yes.
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Lunarary is not online. Lunarary
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20 Dec 2014 11:08 PM
for a second i thought that said despite
but yeah despire isn't a word
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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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20 Dec 2014 11:11 PM
"1. It looks like a portmanteau to me.

2. Please don't name your characters things like that. It's... really bad writing. Just a piece of advice."

what are you a writer? tell me what the heck having a unique name within a novel for a character is bad writing?

@everyone else

okay ty just wanted to make sure it wasn't a word
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ClassicShrek is not online. ClassicShrek
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20 Dec 2014 11:13 PM
bob is always a good name
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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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20 Dec 2014 11:14 PM
"bob is always a good name"

by far the most typical name you could use in an example phrase

might use it for a character's name as a gimmicky joke though
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Randomnessu is not online. Randomnessu
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20 Dec 2014 11:15 PM
"tell me what the heck having a unique name within a novel for a character is bad writing?"

First off, one of the things you're trying to do with a character is make the audience see them like a real person. Like they're real. Giving them realistic-sounding names is one step towards this.

Second off, "despire?" Seriously? That just sounds stupid. Nobody'll take you seriously. Unless you're writing a spiritual successor to "My Immortal."
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ClassicShrek is not online. ClassicShrek
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20 Dec 2014 11:15 PM
ok, how about john
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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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20 Dec 2014 11:18 PM
"First off, one of the things you're trying to do with a character is make the audience see them like a real person. Like they're real. Giving them realistic-sounding names is one step towards this.

Second off, "despire?" Seriously? That just sounds stupid. Nobody'll take you seriously. Unless you're writing a spiritual successor to "My Immortal.""

your logic is crap

you know why?

look at the hunger games

so MANY people relate to the main character and the story which is why it's so successful

now tell me how the heck katniss/peeta/haymitch sounds like a realistic name i can take seriously without laughing at because of how stupid it sounds

oh wait a second the names don't matter because people look at the characters and story not the damn names
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Randomnessu is not online. Randomnessu
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20 Dec 2014 11:20 PM
"now tell me how the heck katniss/peeta/haymitch sounds like a realistic name"

The big thing is that they don't sound like WORDS.
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ClassicShrek is not online. ClassicShrek
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20 Dec 2014 11:20 PM
just name them after foods and animals and youll be good
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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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20 Dec 2014 11:27 PM
"The big thing is that they don't sound like WORDS."

so you're saying because a name sounds like a word but isn't it's stupid and makes my work automatically garbage?

10/10
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Randomnessu is not online. Randomnessu
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20 Dec 2014 11:30 PM
"so you're saying because a name sounds like a word but isn't it's stupid and makes my work automatically garbage?"

More or less, yah. The goal of a name is to make it not sound like a word. Why? Because, if it does, people associate that character with that word. And no matter how well you write them, people'll see them as that quality.


I mean, come on, there's a very simple solution to this problem. Either pick a real name, pick a real name and change it a bit, or throw some phonemes together to make something totally unique-sounding.
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jrad217 is not online. jrad217
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20 Dec 2014 11:30 PM
ROBLOX is a portmanteau of robots and blocks...
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SongofSwords is not online. SongofSwords
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20 Dec 2014 11:32 PM
Despire? It sounds like a dragon name. Is your character a dragon? :)
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SirIsraelPutnam is not online. SirIsraelPutnam
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20 Dec 2014 11:33 PM
coaco
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ProblemOfficers is not online. ProblemOfficers
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20 Dec 2014 11:33 PM
idk it sounds like a brand of perfume or somethin
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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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20 Dec 2014 11:35 PM
"More or less, yah. The goal of a name is to make it not sound like a word. Why? Because, if it does, people associate that character with that word. And no matter how well you write them, people'll see them as that quality.


I mean, come on, there's a very simple solution to this problem. Either pick a real name, pick a real name and change it a bit, or throw some phonemes together to make something totally unique-sounding."

peeta sounds like pita and gale is a word

meanwhile people still love those characters

mad hatter is basically two words

white rabbit is basically two words

snow white is basically two words

and yet people still love all those characters

hmm... i wonder why...
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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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20 Dec 2014 11:35 PM
"idk it sounds like a brand of perfume or somethin"

now that you mention it...
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Randomnessu is not online. Randomnessu
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20 Dec 2014 11:37 PM
"peeta sounds like pita"

It also sounds like "Peter," Sherlock.

"and gale is a word"

As a name, that's spelled "Gail."

"mad hatter is basically two words

white rabbit is basically two words

snow white is basically two words"

Because they used this to their advantage when writing. As a novice writer who is not writing for children or as satire, don't do it.
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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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20 Dec 2014 11:38 PM
"Because they used this to their advantage when writing. As a novice writer who is not writing for children or as satire, don't do it."

please go more in depth with "Because they used this to their advantage when writing."
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Randomnessu is not online. Randomnessu
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20 Dec 2014 11:39 PM
"please go more in depth with "Because they used this to their advantage when writing.""

Certain techniques have a time and a place where they work. In this case, the writers were purposely being shallow. Because the stories were made for small children to understand.
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reddanger is not online. reddanger
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20 Dec 2014 11:41 PM
"Certain techniques have a time and a place where they work. In this case, the writers were purposely being shallow. Because the stories were made for small children to understand."

are you assuming that it only works because it's aimed towards small children?

you do know adults love these characters too right?
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