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Re: [NFC - VS] Starting off on the Wrong Foot

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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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15 Dec 2014 09:23 PM
Greetings clanspeople,

First and foremost, I would like to thank the members in both groups for being fairly respectful towards one another. I speak on NFC's behalf when I say that during our encounters with VS, with the exception of a few bad apples, VS's members have demonstrated the type of respect we have anticipated prior to the war's beginning.

Unfortunately, as much as I would like to go off on a tangent discussing the ways in which the war has been well managed, it has been brought to my attention that minor avoidable detours persist. These detours are by all means fixable, and I hope that this thread will encourage leaders in both groups to respond promptly with effective resolutions.

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May I remind you, members of NFC, VS and outside spectators, that wars whereby clans overtly breach warfare conducts do not end up as wars worth fighting for.
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1. One of the agreements signed off by NFC and VS representatives declares preemptive flooding to be acceptable. Despite of tending to *every single* attack hosted by VS in Fort Topixa, VS has now ignored 4 out of the 7 raids launched by NFC. We consider such actions to be ethically unacceptable and warn VS of the potential implications brought about their abuse of the system.

NFC promises that if such actions are to continue, the current war score will not budge for the remainder of this war.*

2. During negotiations, NFC had given VS the courtesy to choose whether or not they would like for this war to involve allies. VS's choice was to keep this war solely between NFC and VS. As such, players on the allied team in Fort Topixa were prohibited entry unless they either joined NFC or switched to the invading team.

In retrospect, VS leaders made limited efforts in maintaining the status quo throughout our encounters with them in Fort Vulcan. This has led to the cancellation of various NFC led invasions, including a particular disappointing incident where our members had to wait for an hour on 3 newly recruited VS members to switch over to their designated team.

3. Despite the fact that the fort changes were planned days prior to the war, VS is yet to amend to *any* of the changes specified in our agreement. While the bomb game-pass has been removed in Fort Topixa as agreed upon, the 30,000 HP generator in Fort Vulcan remains unedited. If VS does not make any reparations to their Fort as agreed upon, NFC promises to revert Fort Topixa to the way it was prior to the war.*

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We hope for the continued collaboration among our two groups and for these issues to be resolved before this war turn into an unnecessary stagnant for both NFC and VS.

Signed,

BelmontLegend255, NFC Chancellor
AustinLink, NFC Director of Authoritative Affairs
Itachi0111, NFC Director of Community Management
WannaBet, Former NFC SiC & Director of Authoritative Affairs
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Valkyrieius is not online. Valkyrieius
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15 Dec 2014 09:23 PM
hail
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TheMedievalist is not online. TheMedievalist
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15 Dec 2014 09:23 PM
Yes, of course, keep posting these!
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coolguy950 is not online. coolguy950
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15 Dec 2014 09:31 PM
Raiding them yesterday for the first time, one of their leaders pretended to be AFK so that he wouldn't have to use admin to switch individuals on the ally team (WHO WERE IN VS) to VS and make the server official. Some of the stuff they have been doing is awfully disgusting. NFC should be doing a whole lot more than delivering some strong worded messages to them.
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Rocky55119 is not online. Rocky55119
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15 Dec 2014 09:33 PM
I've notified our Head of External Affairs about this thread.

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HarrySG is not online. HarrySG
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15 Dec 2014 09:34 PM
@coolguy, he didn't HAVE admin to change their team
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Blazer960 is not online. Blazer960
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15 Dec 2014 09:34 PM
cool
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coolguy950 is not online. coolguy950
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15 Dec 2014 09:37 PM
How's it our problem that you dysfunctional admin script broke down just in time for this war? NFC made all the changes you wanted for their bases, how about you add some of the changes that you AGREED to, to your base.
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SeriouslySAD is not online. SeriouslySAD
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15 Dec 2014 09:38 PM
signed me too
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HarrySG is not online. HarrySG
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15 Dec 2014 09:42 PM
cool, he didn't even have that type of admin

secondly why isn't serverhopping on here (which nfc did)
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coolguy950 is not online. coolguy950
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15 Dec 2014 09:45 PM
First of all, he openly said that he did but that the 'Admin GUI' was broken.

Second of all, how did we server-hop against you guys today? Itachi had us rallied for a raid, then he placed us to Vulcan and most of our members ended up in the second server. When you guys flooded us at Topixa, we defended outnumbered 14 to 7, but you wouldn't ever do the same for us, how come?
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Ranith78 is online. Ranith78
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15 Dec 2014 09:58 PM
How's it our problem that you dysfunctional admin script broke down just in time for this war? NFC made all the changes you wanted for their bases, how about you add some of the changes that you AGREED to, to your base. [2]
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Pirateboy303 is not online. Pirateboy303
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15 Dec 2014 10:03 PM
....Seems fair enough.

Enough with the arguing about the Vortex Security's admin problems..To us, it looks like it 'just happened' in the time for our war....But guess what? That won't really matter in the end..What will matter, is who has more wins and if they were valid or not due to either breach of contract, or other complications...We agreed to the war terms, as well as they did. I've seen a few broken on each side "**VS's choice was to keep this war solely between NFC and VS.** In my eyes, that would be 'adjusted' as fair..Due to they were on the same day, however a couple of hours of a difference..

Nightfall, Vortex..We signed saying we'll see the war to the end. Stop with your damn complaining and fulfill that agreement; man up..It's good business. Now, cut your kiddy-crap and finish this war. I don't know about any of you, but to most of the old veterans of ROBLOX from what, 2008-2010..We finish the bs we start. I'm not going to be like a baby hatchling waiting for it's next meal..Get the balls to **finish what you started..To both Super-Clans**; NFC as well as VS.



_Unit303
_Former NFC-3iC, head of trainings
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Dalzeel is not online. Dalzeel
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15 Dec 2014 10:06 PM
HCOM will be notified.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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15 Dec 2014 10:09 PM
hmm not me <_<
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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15 Dec 2014 10:20 PM
To commentators part of the VS HICOM, thank you for your cooperation.
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coolguy950 is not online. coolguy950
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15 Dec 2014 10:34 PM
Anyhow, if these problems are fixed within the next couple of days, no harm done, VS.
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ms75 is online. ms75
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16 Dec 2014 05:29 AM
Yeah see, this is the kind of drama I was talking about. I'll see that this is fixed. (anything involving vulcan anyway)
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Allocated is not online. Allocated
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16 Dec 2014 06:00 AM
please tell kdg he can't change the raid limit without bel's consent, he's trying to change the raid limit from 9000 to 3600 secs =///
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KnowDaGame is not online. KnowDaGame
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16 Dec 2014 11:42 AM
Before you start complaining, why don't you get your facts straight and get yourself in the Warfare chatroom.

-Director of VS External Affairs, KDG


[Vortex Security: Advisor | USA: DEPSECSTATE] - [@KnowDaGame on Twitter]
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EmperorRyzoft is not online. EmperorRyzoft
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16 Dec 2014 11:43 AM
Why do people even try war VS.
as long as KDG is in the group
it's bound to fail.
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EmperorRyzoft is not online. EmperorRyzoft
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16 Dec 2014 11:44 AM
xd
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HelloHumans123 is not online. HelloHumans123
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16 Dec 2014 11:51 AM
Hail NFC
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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16 Dec 2014 12:45 PM
"Before you start complaining, why don't you get your facts straight and get yourself in the Warfare chatroom.

-Director of VS External Affairs, KDG"

KnowDaGame,

It would be much appreciated if you took your time reading over the content presented rather than jump to immediate conclusions. May I repeat myself when I say that failure in ensuring the continued diplomatic cooperation among our two groups will turn this war into an necessary stagnant for both NFC and VS.
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ezaiahs is not online. ezaiahs
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16 Dec 2014 02:29 PM
i find it strange that i agree with ryan..

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