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[USA] The true checks and balances

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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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16 Dec 2014 10:22 AM
So, many citizens of the USA are aware of checks and balances: if you don't know already, they're how governmental branches can "check" other branches and "balance" the power between the government.
Of course, if one branch has more checks on a different branch, even just one or two, it can really tip the balance in the branch with more checks' favour.
Now, the executive branch has been rather quiet in this branch war, so I'll highlight what the new constitution [created by jcmand and ryanrevan] has done with checks and balances.

- denotes removal of check
+ denotes addition of check

CHECKS LEGISLATIVE HAS ON JUDICIAL
-Sole power of impeachment
-2/3 majority vote on approvals
-Amendments to halt power

CHECKS JUDICIAL HAS ON LEGISLATIVE
+can block all laws
+can block all constitutional amendments
+can block all impeachments
+controls where congress meets and votes
+can create new laws [they thought they could already do this, but i'm highlighting it here]
+thinks they can remove members [of course they can't, however they think they can]

Now, if you STILL think this isn't outrageous, keep this in mind:
THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT IS AN *APPEALS COURT*.
It is NOT the ruling body of the country, however this ridiculously STUPID constitution which was just passed has allowed it to be.
The House of Representatives officially motioned for a revote, but the power-hungry fools, jcmand and RyanRevan, refused to comply with the will of the people.

The end.

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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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16 Dec 2014 10:25 AM
Constructive arguments only, please. I can also provide proof of claims if you'd like.

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iComrade is not online. iComrade
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16 Dec 2014 10:26 AM
rip america
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fatdoc893 is not online. fatdoc893
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16 Dec 2014 10:30 AM
Oh hell naaawwww
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Advanceninja is not online. Advanceninja
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16 Dec 2014 11:48 AM
We don't decide where you meet.



We don't care.


Follow the constitution, scrub.
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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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16 Dec 2014 01:27 PM
"Neither House, during the session of Congress, shall, do business at any other place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting, unless by way of forum or other method deemed acceptable by the Supreme Court."

translated:
neither house can do business unless its a forum vote or if the supreme court lets us do it

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MarkEmblox is not online. MarkEmblox
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16 Dec 2014 03:14 PM
Ross keeps crying out to the public... but no one hears except a rat. <-- Ross.
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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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16 Dec 2014 03:15 PM
I use this far too much, but mark, there's a reason you work for the department of education.
Be quiet and be schooled.

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golfgames1 is not online. golfgames1
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16 Dec 2014 03:17 PM
Lol, Congress just needs to grow up. Jc's constitution was FINE, it balanced out Congress power with Supreme Court power. How many times have Congress passed a silly bill and no one could say "na m8."? Forever is the answer, forever. Now that someone can stop them from making stupid bills, they get angry and pass a law that SC can't step on House floors. This USA is not declining, this USA is not falling, it's Congresses strength that is falling. It's so bad that the Supreme Court has to act like Congress now due to the immaturity and lack of brain cells Congress has. "In real life, the Supreme Court can't do any of this." -Congress For one, this USA is not suppose to 100% based off real life, but it has done a good job so far. You are lacking in your duties as Congress, so therefore, jc has to do something risky in order to keep this USA in balance. Unbelievable! And you want to get mad at him because now someone matches your power? GTFO, CONGRESS. IF YOU WOULD ACT MATURE AND STOP PASSING THESE UGLY, POWER HUNGRY BILLS NONE OF THIS WOULD OF HAPPENED. Oh, haha, and they claim they read the constitution Jc made and they approved it. But, oh no, they said they were misled! How do you get misled by text.. Congress, stop whining, just stop. Your power is matched now, this is to keep you in check.

this is what i said on divineimperium's post. read it carefully.

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DeviousQueen is not online. DeviousQueen
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16 Dec 2014 03:18 PM
I do agree the Supreme Court power is a bit much.
But can't we make amendments to balance power?
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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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16 Dec 2014 03:19 PM
@golf, clearly you didn't read the post
@devious no, supreme court can block the amendment to balance power

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16 Dec 2014 03:39 PM
I did, I don't even need to read the post. I know it's going to be some short rant about how Congress power has been taken away and SC powers have been increased. It wasn't really any checks and balances in the first place, it was Congress passing whatever they want and 2/3rds of the House still overriding the Presidents veto if it did receive a veto.

get speonk'd m8
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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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16 Dec 2014 03:59 PM
president never vetoed anything
+the SC cancelled many many things in our last term for no reason

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16 Dec 2014 04:00 PM
rip
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Fauxtillion is not online. Fauxtillion
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16 Dec 2014 04:03 PM
hey what you got against the department of education?

nah but seriously i'd recommend anyone bashing on ross actually read the constitution because every point he's made in his OP is valid.

go ross!

xoxo, gossip girl
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16 Dec 2014 04:49 PM
heil ross!


"Intellectuals solve problems, geniuses prevent them."
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