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Re: [SENATE] Constitution Voting

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jcmand is not online. jcmand
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11 Dec 2014 03:26 PM
Let the Supreme Court extend its hand to Congress on its big project. We have recently decided to start a project to draft a new Constitution amended to fit our ROBLOX needs in this the 21st Century.

Well, that project is finally complete. It has a lot of backing from those across all three branches! We have a couple congressmen, a couple federal court judges, we have the attorney general, secretary of the treasury, secretary of the interior, secretary of homeland security, and finally, last but not least, we have the Speaker himself giving full support.

Currently, this final draft has been signed by the five Supreme Court Justices who were in the chat today and we believe it is ready to face Congress' judgement.

This new Constitution also lowers the quorum from 2/3 to 1/5! A whole lot easier to get a session now. And guess what? It's already approved by the Supreme Court.

There has been some foolish fighting going on lately, but it's time to put an end to that nonsense.

We're here to compromise. We want to work together. Let's make America a better place!

To view this new Constitution which has been drafted by the Supreme Court; http://nusaconstitution.cu.cc/

We require your approval to fix this nation, please do so.

Senators, your votes?
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KingRyanXV is not online. KingRyanXV
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11 Dec 2014 08:43 PM
I urge my colleagues in the Senate to vote Aye to this constitution. The Supreme Court in my personal opinion did a great job in drafting this new constitution and worked very well with all branches. I unfortunately did not give any input to this Constitution because I was not in Congress during its drafting but I fully support it and I hope that you will as well.

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KingRyanXV
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fluffymole is not online. fluffymole
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13 Dec 2014 02:44 PM
aye
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VrolokTepes is not online. VrolokTepes
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13 Dec 2014 02:47 PM
vote for the purple guy pls
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SHARIFI2001 is not online. SHARIFI2001
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13 Dec 2014 03:13 PM
Aye
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DeviousQueen is not online. DeviousQueen
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13 Dec 2014 03:51 PM
Aye.
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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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13 Dec 2014 05:28 PM
"Any impeachment proposed by the House of Representatives first must have the charges for impeachment proved legitimate by the Supreme Court."

this means that the supreme court can cancel any case they want for impeachment, which puts congress' sole power of impeachment in jeopardy.

"While the federal courts are struggling, Supreme Court Justices can ride circuits and perform the regular duties of a federal judge, in addition to their regular responsibilities"

this means that supreme court justices get law nullifying and impeachment cancelling powers, but now get federal judge powers? no.

"The Supreme Court may with a ⅔ vote expel a member of the Supreme Court if they find him unfit or unable in his duties"

introduces bias - a supreme court justice may be disliked by other justices but execute his job faithfully; this process is far too easy to accomplish and would not work. it's SUPPOSED to be impeachment ONLY.

"as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the approval of the Supreme Court or the entire Federal Court"

this means that supreme court ALSO CONTROLS AMENDMENTS. if we pass an amendment supported by the public to limit the supreme court's power, they can just delete it on demand.

"As such, no person may be ordered into Federal Prison without either a warrant from a Federal Judge, or a warrant from a Supreme Court Justice"

SUPREME COURT IS AN APPEALS COURT. THEY SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN WARRANT POWERS.

"Any person accused with a crime may not be punished until a trial is held"

are you exiling everybody in the group, mass spamming, or admin attacking an agency? good news! you don't get punished until a few days later.

The points above will cripple the country and give the supreme court EVEN. MORE. POWER.
They don't need it, and we certainly don't need it.
Vote nay and then we can work with the supreme court TOGETHER to make a far more sensible constitution which fulfills the checks and balances; instead of tipping the weight in favour of the supreme court.

Please change your vote to nay, or vote nay now - and then we can have our own say in this, and rebuild our constitution through compromise: instead of only voting on the supreme court's version.

rossb654mail || i'm right you know
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jcmand is not online. jcmand
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13 Dec 2014 05:55 PM
"Any person accused with a crime may not be punished until a trial is held"

This is the whole, innocent until proven otherwise thing in the Constitution. Do you want to be guilty of a crime without a trial?

"As such, no person may be ordered into Federal Prison without either a warrant from a Federal Judge, or a warrant from a Supreme Court Justice"

Judges and Justices are magistrates so they have the power to issue warrants.

"Any impeachment proposed by the House of Representatives first must have the charges for impeachment proved legitimate by the Supreme Court."

That how it is right now. Since we have 6 year olds getting elected with only their own vote, its only fair to balance this. Also, this only applies with the executive branch impeachments. That way, they can't interfere with their own impeachments.

Jcmand || Vice President of the United States
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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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13 Dec 2014 06:03 PM
1] you didn't take into account my example: its a blanket law that just doesn't work
2] that's only because of your constitution
3] no, evidence doesn't HAVE to be voted on by the supreme court. they do it if they want to, currently.
adding them to the mix is totally stupid and lets them interfere with literally everything

rossb654mail || i'm right you know
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Ethancomputermad is not online. Ethancomputermad
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13 Dec 2014 08:40 PM
If you dont nay this then the Supreme Court will become rulers of the US
Us in the House realised too late.
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Octoval is not online. Octoval
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13 Dec 2014 09:51 PM
Abstain
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jcmand is not online. jcmand
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13 Dec 2014 09:57 PM
Not really. It's fairly balanced. I'm sorry to ruin the conspiracy theories you've been making all night long in the Congress chat.

Jcmand || Vice President of the United States
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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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14 Dec 2014 04:30 AM
Jc, you showed your corruption when you were a Supreme Court Justice. You kept illegally making decisions and passing it as "law", when it was never in your power.
It's clear that you and the Supreme Court are still best buddies, and this constitution will NOT pass if we are ever to correct the Supreme Court's absurd amount of power.

rossb654mail || i'm right you know
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RareMetals is not online. RareMetals
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14 Dec 2014 04:47 AM
"SECTION 8. The Supreme Court may with a ⅔ vote expel a member of the Supreme Court if they find him unfit or unable in his duties.

>That is unconstitutional. Bias can be brought up extremely easily.
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jcmand is not online. jcmand
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14 Dec 2014 09:57 AM
You seem to forget that we are voting on a new Constitution, thereof anything contained in it will be Constitutional.

The SC power would be used like now, if there is an inactive justice bringing down the court.

Jcmand || Vice President of the United States
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LadyVictoriaII is not online. LadyVictoriaII
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14 Dec 2014 04:00 PM
Aye.
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JustYourDailyNoob is not online. JustYourDailyNoob
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14 Dec 2014 06:24 PM
AYE
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AwakenedNightmare is not online. AwakenedNightmare
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14 Dec 2014 11:25 PM
Aye

#Senator AwakenedNightmare
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Galthos is not online. Galthos
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15 Dec 2014 06:20 AM
Aye
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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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15 Dec 2014 10:09 AM
The house has officially revoked its support of this constitution, due to the insane amount of power given to the Supreme Court.
As such, the proposal fails.

rossb654mail || i'm right you know
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RyanRevan is not online. RyanRevan
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15 Dec 2014 10:34 AM
Aye.

(Note: You can't revoke a vote... sorry)

Ryan || Senator
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TheKnightOfMayhem is not online. TheKnightOfMayhem
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15 Dec 2014 01:14 PM
nay
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ArStridar is not online. ArStridar
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15 Dec 2014 01:50 PM
Aye.
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longlyrod1604 is not online. longlyrod1604
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15 Dec 2014 01:51 PM
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