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Re: Am I being unreasonable?

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dudeshark is not online. dudeshark
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11 Dec 2014 04:57 PM
So there's an EL OiT trying to get HR.
He literally begged me for like 3 days via PM about how he deserved it and was begging and all that crap.

So y'know he's not the most intelligent or experienced.

So anyways I didn't want him as HR because I didn't see him as fit and all that but it pissed off some other HR because "he worked so hard for it"

Am I being unreasonable by denying him or nah?


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Boletarian is not online. Boletarian
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11 Dec 2014 04:58 PM
train him you silly goose
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are31 is not online. are31
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11 Dec 2014 04:58 PM
no tell him u need to train him and say earn it unless hes already earned it easily cause its EL.
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dudeshark is not online. dudeshark
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11 Dec 2014 04:58 PM
"train him"
not my job. I don't work with OiT


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meankiller7 is not online. meankiller7
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11 Dec 2014 04:59 PM
How many messages did he send you over the period of 3 days?
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Ariff is not online. Ariff
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11 Dec 2014 04:59 PM
You're not being unreasonable.

It is your decision, not the other HR. If you firmly believe that he will not benefit the clan at that position then it's reasonable.

Especially if he begs for the rank.

The other HR could be in the scheme too.
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dudeshark is not online. dudeshark
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11 Dec 2014 04:59 PM
are, you haven't been around recently so imma tell you nicely. EL isn't the same lol.
Also, he's a MR and he has to get a HR to pass his UO which is like an evaluation so he was trying to convince me.


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Boletarian is not online. Boletarian
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11 Dec 2014 05:00 PM
if you don't work for the oits, then why would he ask you... ._.
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dudeshark is not online. dudeshark
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11 Dec 2014 05:00 PM
mean, idk but it was like too many replies to count in a short amount of time.

ariff, that's how I saw it.


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dudeshark is not online. dudeshark
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11 Dec 2014 05:01 PM
bole, I can still promote them I just don't train them. That's not my field.


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Noelzilla1 is not online. Noelzilla1
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11 Dec 2014 05:01 PM
Nope.


Also, where r u? I am trying to Skype ya
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Ariff is not online. Ariff
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11 Dec 2014 05:02 PM
Even if "he worked hard for it" he needs to face the truth; if he isn't suited for the rank then there's no need to beg/argue for it.

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dudeshark is not online. dudeshark
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11 Dec 2014 05:04 PM
noel, been at a soccer tournament. Just got back.

ariff, that's like exactly how I saw it but I guess EL is just more of that traditional "hard work>ability" type of clan.


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twinzer87 is not online. twinzer87
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11 Dec 2014 05:04 PM
no

he sounds like a filthy degenerate
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Ariff is not online. Ariff
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11 Dec 2014 05:05 PM
eh, how do the HR Promotions work in EL?

election?
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dudeshark is not online. dudeshark
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11 Dec 2014 05:06 PM
No, it's like a training program (that's really bad and being reformed)
but they essentially get trained by some HR then undergo 3 "UOs" which is basically just them hosting a training and the HR that is overseeing judges them. If they're good enough they pass.


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TotallyFabulous is not online. TotallyFabulous
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11 Dec 2014 05:06 PM
tell him to actaully earn it
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Ariff is not online. Ariff
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11 Dec 2014 05:08 PM
You were the overseer for him then I assume?

Then obviously it's your decision.
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dudeshark is not online. dudeshark
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11 Dec 2014 05:09 PM
No, I wasn't. I did see part of it being held though. He just wasn't fit for the position. At least by my terms. So I put in my input a bit and it set off this brand new HR who went on about how he deserved it because he tried soo hard.


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meankiller7 is not online. meankiller7
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11 Dec 2014 05:10 PM
If he is begging for a HR spot dont let him in. If he sent so many messages you cant even count them just block him.
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Anonymust is not online. Anonymust
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11 Dec 2014 05:11 PM
if hes such a child that he was to beg for it nonstop, it's not unreasonable to deny.
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Ariff is not online. Ariff
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11 Dec 2014 05:12 PM
Hopefully the overseer of his training considers your input a bit then.

Failing to provide a successful training to your fellow members but because "you tried" and it suddenly makes it ok?

Er, no.
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dudeshark is not online. dudeshark
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11 Dec 2014 05:14 PM
Ight thanks for your input guys. I'm really harsh I guess but I'm just trying to make sure I'm not being blatantly unreasonable.


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preliatoran is not online. preliatoran
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11 Dec 2014 05:15 PM
or you know, dude.

tell me about this so I can solve it cause you know im not very fond of beggars within the group.

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are31 is not online. are31
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11 Dec 2014 05:16 PM
EL will always be nooby EL to me
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