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Re: The issue with American Realists

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xKodiac is online. xKodiac
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09 Dec 2014 09:55 PM
Note: This does not apply to every realist in the United States, but most follow common trends.

Many realists in the US are aware how we(americans) tend to view our country as the greatest on the planet or assume we outrank other countries in terms of freedom and military capabilities, etc etc. Now, being aware of this is a positive step forward, however, many realists tend to oppose a statistic of the US because of the common tendicies of Americans without completly understanding the evidence supporting the statistic. For example, many believe the US is the most powerful in the world. Now, this is true in terms of capabilites, we tend to think we can defeat any nation easily and effectivly except for Russia or China. Realisticly, Russia is closer to France's military than America's and the odds of a swift American victory in any modernized nation is unlikely. Realists will tend to believe Russia or China, or even Israel, is ahead of the US in terms of military strength. Another example, believing American's are stupid comapred to the rest of the world. Our education system isn't great, no doubt. But it does offer a great education if a student knows how to use the education avaible to his advantage, often involving special tutors, lost of AP in specific fields, etc. Very complicated schueduling and planning and reuiring a student to know specifically what field of work they want to be situated in no later than roughly Jr. High. Even with that, we're still not in the top 5. I believe if every student used the education system to its maximum effectivness, it would bring us in the top 15 or so. Even with that said, in terms of Universities, we have the best in the world, according to many polls. It's debatable over how many US universities truly are in the top 10, but most polls and statistics avg. a total of 8. So, although the US isn't great in education, it's not systimatically increasing its entire populations ignorance. We still have enough intelligent people who can use grammar and spell correctly(unlike me :c) and do many other things that'll keep this country running.
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thea96 is not online. thea96
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09 Dec 2014 09:55 PM
word wall dont care have guns
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Rahvin is not online. Rahvin
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09 Dec 2014 09:55 PM
why did you make this post and what did you think it would accomplish
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xKodiac is online. xKodiac
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09 Dec 2014 10:06 PM
Issues with other clans. Putting this out to discredit some enemy leaders.
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bluefredy is not online. bluefredy
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09 Dec 2014 10:07 PM
tl;dr

don't post stuff like this in c&g
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Rahvin is not online. Rahvin
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09 Dec 2014 10:07 PM
i think you need to reevaluate your life
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xKodiac is online. xKodiac
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09 Dec 2014 11:05 PM
How so?
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Tsyolin is not online. Tsyolin
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09 Dec 2014 11:07 PM
america is the best god damn country ever.

compare us to the savages in europe, or the mass slavery in asia, (not gonna include south america or africa because they're backwash dumps where we leave minorities) and you'll see the usa is the best country ever.
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Vaul is not online. Vaul
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09 Dec 2014 11:07 PM
Did you pull this off a god damn website?
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444Bearkiller is not online. 444Bearkiller
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09 Dec 2014 11:08 PM
I agree that the common american critics don't understand that most people don't perceive us as the greatest world power.

We do have great light infantry, and some pretty fearsome funding.
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RareMetals is not online. RareMetals
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09 Dec 2014 11:08 PM
Literally has nothing to do with ROBLOX.


Not once did you mention ROBLOX, clans, or any affiliates of ROBLOX.

I saw this as a political post, and only as such.

Also, the U.S. could whoop Russia's ass any day. They're technology is still in the 1980's lol.
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Vaul is not online. Vaul
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09 Dec 2014 11:08 PM
We have an education within top 30 you dumbass.
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PharaohOfEgypt117 is not online. PharaohOfEgypt117
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09 Dec 2014 11:11 PM
While a lot of this is true, I feel the States would be able to ultimately beat Russia or China in a war, mainly because of our economy.. It's so much better than Russia or China's economies.


By the way, next time post this on OT, GCers have a better presence there. :)
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Weaponization is not online. Weaponization
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09 Dec 2014 11:13 PM
word wall dont care have guns [2]

but yeah, if you compare Russias military to the United States we're far more advanced.

Now if you compare us to China....ehhh it's about the same both ways.


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DystraTala is not online. DystraTala
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09 Dec 2014 11:17 PM
There is no country on earth that could even come close to defeating the US.

Absolutely massive amounts of troops deployed worldwide due to America's huge and powerful navy will equal domination.

Any weapons that were given to other nations from the US will be useless due to a fail-safe.

Technology wins modern wars, and America has certainly kept on top of their game in terms of military science.
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xKodiac is online. xKodiac
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09 Dec 2014 11:21 PM
I didn't say Russia would beat the US in war. I said I don't believe the US would win with a swift victory, meaning very little casualties, manpowerneeded, and over in a matter of months. The US would either win or a war would result in a sort of draw like situation because a modern war with Russia would be a very bizar one in terms of the areal war which most of it would take place in the artic circle. It is unlikely that Russia would win, even with the use of a nuclear missile. Our Navy is strong enough to knock 99% of ICBMs down while the US has far more ICBMs to match Russia, plus Russia is not as industrialized as the United States, meaning a way in Eastern and Centeral Russia would be disasterous for Russia.

Hope that cleared things up.
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xKodiac is online. xKodiac
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09 Dec 2014 11:23 PM
@Dy: Well, a war on American soil would be won with technology, but we aren't doing so well in Afghanastan and the Taliban have very little Technology, although defining a victory in Afghanastan is up for debate, the taliban have put up a decent fight on their own soil, but indeed technology will win battles with other super powers like China or Iran(middle eastern super power to say the least).

(btw, this post would have gone on GC, but we all know what happened to that .-.)
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