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Re: Texas State and Personal rooting interests for Saturday:

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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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05 Dec 2014 05:24 PM
Texas State:
1. Oklahoma (If Oklahoma State beats the Sooners, all Big 12 bowl spots will be filled)
2. Boise State (If Boise State beats Fresno State, they'll get a NY6 bowl, which frees up an MWC spot, which is the backup for the Big 12)

If OU and Boise both take care of business, there's a good 80% shot that Texas State will receive a phone call from the Armed Forces Bowl (or possible, but less possible, the New Mexico Bowl) on Sunday morning.

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Personal:
1. Mizzou (Not a single SEC team would make up the CFB Playoff, isn't that great?)
2. Georgia Tech (self explanatory)
3. Baylor (If both things listed above happen, TWO BIG 12 TEAMS IN THE PLAYOFF!!! - depending on TCU*)

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How about both(?):
1. TCU* (If the Big 12 gets a team in the playoff, Texas State's chances get even higher if the first two things happen. And also, a BIG 12 TEAM IN THE PLAYOFF!!!)
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PositiveVibez is not online. PositiveVibez
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05 Dec 2014 05:30 PM
Honestly Oklahoma is poop and Baylor almost went into OT with TTU
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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05 Dec 2014 05:36 PM
Why it'd be an 80% shot is because Texas State would go up against Central Michigan for their bowl spot.

Here's the comparisons.

Texas State got an overflow of attendance for their most-attended game (Navy; 32,007) compared to Central Michigan (Syracuse; 25,531) who didn't even sell out

Central Michigan's attendance averages for the season were 13,306 while Texas State averaged 19,785. Including weekday games (which Central Michigan didn't have any) which is impressive.

The open bowl spot left would be the Armed Forces Bowl or Gildan New Mexico bowl (depending on how things shake out by Sunday) so Texas State is closer in proximity to either bowl. Geography and higher attendance would prove to be HUGE factors in picking the Bobcats.

Texas State also put up close games vs bowl-eligible non-conference opponents like Navy and Illinois, who they should've even beat, (while Central Michigan got blown out of the water by 3-9 Syracuse) and Georgia Southern (Sun Belt champion)

I could keep on going, stating how Texas State has 3 rushers over 500 yards while Central Michigan only has 1 and how Texas State has a more efficient QB and how Texas State has a top-20 LB in the nation leading an aggressive (yet breakable at times, that I will admit) defense.
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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05 Dec 2014 05:36 PM
Oh yes, and both teams are also 7-5.
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PositiveVibez is not online. PositiveVibez
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05 Dec 2014 05:39 PM
dude wtf how do you know all of this
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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05 Dec 2014 05:39 PM
Because I'm a Bobcat (and Longhorn) fan. I'm a college football lover :)
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PositiveVibez is not online. PositiveVibez
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05 Dec 2014 05:40 PM
Im from texas but I love Ohio State and are you a hardcore college football fan
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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05 Dec 2014 05:40 PM
Hell yes. I bleed college football.
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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05 Dec 2014 05:41 PM
I also play high school football right now irl too so that's that

Let's just say I grew up with football since I was like 5 xD
(Even though I have played, and still follow, other spots like soccer and basketball)
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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05 Dec 2014 05:45 PM
But what I just said relies on Oklahoma and Boise State. Even if one doesn't win, the whole possibilities fall apart. If Texas State wins, I expect the invite...
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doctorgonzo is not online. doctorgonzo
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05 Dec 2014 05:48 PM
"Texas State got an overflow of attendance for their most-attended game (Navy; 32,007) compared to Central Michigan (Syracuse; 25,531) who didn't even sell out"

lol why does that matter

"Central Michigan's attendance averages for the season were 13,306 while Texas State averaged 19,785. Including weekday games (which Central Michigan didn't have any) which is impressive."

hmmmm seems like it doesn't matter

"The open bowl spot left would be the Armed Forces Bowl or Gildan New Mexico bowl (depending on how things shake out by Sunday) so Texas State is closer in proximity to either bowl. Geography and higher attendance would prove to be HUGE factors in picking the Bobcats."

probably doesn't matter

"Texas State also put up close games vs bowl-eligible non-conference opponents like Navy and Illinois, who they should've even beat, (while Central Michigan got blown out of the water by 3-9 Syracuse) and Georgia Southern (Sun Belt champion)"

wowza doesn't matter

"I could keep on going, stating how Texas State has 3 rushers over 500 yards while Central Michigan only has 1 and how Texas State has a more efficient QB and how Texas State has a top-20 LB in the nation leading an aggressive (yet breakable at times, that I will admit) defense."

i could keep going on about how this doesn't matter


1. CMU is either contracted to the potato bowl or the camellia bowl. you aren't going to be battling them for a bowl spot

2. here's your own school going against your arguments https://star.txstate.edu/node/1199

3. ohio and temple are the ones you are probably going to battling with, and temple (assuming they make it) are the most attractive draw simple because they are AAC.
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MarioKartAddict is not online. MarioKartAddict
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05 Dec 2014 05:49 PM
tato that texas state link is from last year
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doctorgonzo is not online. doctorgonzo
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05 Dec 2014 05:53 PM
@mario

yeah. the problem wasn't fixed. looking at attendance records from 2013 to 2014, it actually appears that attendance dropped (rough estimation). they've only sold out one game, and it was the navy one which probably speaks more to navy fans than it does to bobcat fans
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MarioKartAddict is not online. MarioKartAddict
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05 Dec 2014 06:07 PM
while the link is from last year the text of it is still true so yes
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06 Dec 2014 12:15 AM
"why does that matter x5"
Attendance, close proximity to the bowl, team strength, etc. are all factors. Bowl committees don't want to bring in 6-6 teams (for example) that wouldn't even fill up the seats. You know how bad that looks for THEM? Temple's numbers (in proportion to how large their stadium is and how many seats they can fill) are less than Texas State's. And the Bobcats have higher figures than CMU.

"1. CMU is either contracted to the potato bowl or the camellia bowl. you aren't going to be battling them for a bowl spot"
The MAC has only 5 bowl spots (and there's 6 bowl-eligible teams). Due to the high number of SEC and ACC teams being bowl-eligible and having to go somewhere like you touched upon two days ago, this makes there be one less bowl spot for the MAC, resulting in an at-large battle, as widely projected. It will come down to the two schools that are 7-5 Group of 5 teams.

"2. here's your own school going against your arguments https://star.txstate.edu/node/1199"
Funny thing is that's from last year, and attendance figures actually rose this year. Last year's averages were just over 18,000 while this year's averages were right near the 20,000 mark, which looks great to bowl committees.

"3. ohio and temple are the ones you are probably going to battling with, and temple (assuming they make it) are the most attractive draw simple because they are AAC."
But consider this, even if it comes down to a 7-5 Texas State team and a 6-6 Temple team, and the Armed Forces Bowl is open, I'm pretty sure the school down the road with a better record in a Group of 5 conference will get the go. That's as simple as it gets. The AAC is still a Group of 5 conference that didn't even get a team in a NY6 bowl. Temple had to win their last game against a crap Tulane team to get BOWL ELIGIBLE, while Texas State was bowl eligible in their second-to-last game against a bowl-bound Arkansas State team. Everyone is naturally biased, but I think these are facts.

Let's hold off the argument here until the Oklahoma-Oklahoma State, TCU-ISU and Boise State-Fresno State games. That's how the at-large spot will even be available anyway.
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06 Dec 2014 12:20 AM
*the at-large spot for Texas State, Temple, and CMU
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06 Dec 2014 01:01 AM
"Attendance, close proximity to the bowl, team strength, etc. are all factors. Bowl committees don't want to bring in 6-6 teams (for example) that wouldn't even fill up the seats. You know how bad that looks for THEM? Temple's numbers (in proportion to how large their stadium is and how many seats they can fill) are less than Texas State's. And the Bobcats have higher figures than CMU."

that doesn't matter. bowl committees care more about sweet television money than they do about attendance figures. host the game in southern brazil and see if anyone shows up. they don't care. the real money is in the fact that people will watch the game on television, casual fans and die-hards alike. pure fans of CFB will watch any bowl game, so that's out of the equation. next is the market. philadelphia is a large market committees won't be able to keep their greasy hands off of. why sacrifice that for texas' 8th most important team?

"The MAC has only 5 bowl spots (and there's 6 bowl-eligible teams). Due to the high number of SEC and ACC teams being bowl-eligible and having to go somewhere like you touched upon two days ago, this makes there be one less bowl spot for the MAC, resulting in an at-large battle, as widely projected. It will come down to the two schools that are 7-5 Group of 5 teams."

do you even read bowl projections or are you making this up as you go along. CMU is projected for bowl games by experts. texas state is not. it doesn't matter how many ACC or SEC teams are in the mix, CMU still makes it.

"Funny thing is that's from last year, and attendance figures actually rose this year. Last year's averages were just over 18,000 while this year's averages were right near the 20,000 mark, which looks great to bowl committees."

1. correct sirhurricane. 2013 average attendance was 18061 and 2/3rds. 2014 average attendance 19785. while that 1700 people isn't a massive jump in the first place, we have to remove the navy game because it is an extreme outlier, and therefore, not a good way to truly determine the average, which turns out to be 17340.6, less than 2013.

"But consider this, even if it comes down to a 7-5 Texas State team and a 6-6 Temple team, and the Armed Forces Bowl is open, I'm pretty sure the school down the road with a better record in a Group of 5 conference will get the go."

hmmmmm counterpoint: it won't. AAC >>> sun belt. quality and television. there's more people who will watch on the eastern seaboard than there are in the sun belt.

"That's as simple as it gets."

hmmm no it isn't

"The AAC is still a Group of 5 conference that didn't even get a team in a NY6 bowl."

okay. neither did the MAC, sun belt, or conference-usa. what's your point.

"Temple had to win their last game against a crap Tulane team to get BOWL ELIGIBLE,"

okay, they're still bowl eligible

"while Texas State was bowl eligible in their second-to-last game against a bowl-bound Arkansas State team. Everyone is naturally biased, but I think these are facts."

it doesn't matter. temple is a better draw than texas state

" *the at-large spot for Texas State, Temple, and CMU "

did you even bother to read? CMU is in a bowl game. texas state is not. the experts did their projections. no one wants to do anything with texas state.
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06 Dec 2014 10:51 PM
well then
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