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Re: Pricefloor Bible Revision

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Despairus is not online. Despairus
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29 Nov 2014 02:47 PM
This is a revision of my original price floor bible, explaining why it should at least be lowered by half or 3 quarters.

Table of Contents:
A. The truth behind their Blog post.
B. "It has already been lowered once!"
C. "ROBLOX needs the money"
D. "It's been a year now"/"they wont listen"
E. "WNTS".
F. "It prevents copying."
G. What should be done.

================== A. The truth behind their Blog post. ==================

"1. Raise the quality of items in the catalog."
Incase you havent looked at the catalog, here it is:
http://www.roblox.com/catalog/browse.aspx?CatalogContext=1&Subcategory=12&SortType=0&SortAggregation=3&SortCurrency=0&LegendExpanded=true&Category=3
There's no difference, if not even lower quality in clothing now.
The only high quality clothing I know of came long before the price floor.

"2. Reward makers and sellers of clothing."
Personally, for designing an image, you shouldn't expect much, let alone anything from it.
You even used to be able to sell shirts for free, and people did it, because they cared for their consumers and wanted to benefit them, not theirselves.
They could've raised it to 20 tix at least, but 100 is overkill.
Clothing designing should've remained a hobby done for fun, not a business done for money.


"3. To incentivize non-paying users to buy ROBUX."
This isn't a reason; every update they make basically encourages this, and, they have an excess of money.


================== B. "It has already been lowered once!" ==================

It has been lowered once, from 250 tix to 100 tix.
That's just going from ridiculously outrageous, to just outrageous.
It's still outrageous. Even if they lowered it, it's still too much and needs to be lowered.


================== C. "ROBLOX needs the money" ==================

Now, before you say, "they'll shutdown!¡!¡!¡", let me just say, roblox could remove more than 10 updates and still maintain their site without it shutting down.
Price floor is just one of them, and removing it, or anything that was never absolutely needed, will not cause anything to happen.

If they really needed the small extra money from price floor, then I think a year later their budget should be in good range now. Now explain to me why it's still here. Here, I'll give you a hint: "gr__d".

And before you say: "but they need money!¡!¡":

1. Roblox earned $20 million alone from investors in 2012. Now consider 2014.
2. They earn $50,000 in ad revenue.
3. They earn truckloads of BC income, and i'm sure taking a tiny pebble(pricefloor) out of a rock tower wont cause the whole thing to tumble.
4. They host huge events worldwide.
5. They rented a battleship to one of their events in London.
6. Their servers are cheap 50 mbps ones.
7. They give hundreds and thousands to OBC'ers through devex while profiting from it.

And before you say: "They're a company, their job is to make money".
No, that's wrong. Their Job is to satisfy their consumers.


================== D. "It's been a year now"/"they wont listen" ==================

They think we've forgotten about price floor, which is just what they wanted.
We need to show them we still care and hate the price floor and wont just give up.
We have power as the consumer, and we need to make them listen.
They've been robbing us of more than enough money for over 1 year now.


================== E. "WNTS" ==================

The price floor has and never will fall under the category of WNTS.

When they say "Big update" or "Huge feature",
they're talking about updates like Dynamic lighting that take hundreds of lines of code and is almost impossible to undo.
Price floor, on the other hand, was nothing more but the change of the number 5, to 100.
The reaction might've been huge, but not the update.
And may I point out that there is no WNTS anymore.


================== F. "It prevents copying." ==================

Umm, no, last time I checked, it doesn't. It made copying worse, and, the copier makes even more profit.
Public Sources:
http://www.roblox.com/MUSCLE-SHIRT-100K-SALES-FRIEND-ME-item?id=109367940
http://www.roblox.com/Muscles-With-Tattoos-30K-SALES-item?id=110613050

================== G. What should be done. ==================

The price floor should be lowered to either 25 or 50 tix, if not removed entirely.
It does nothing but monopolize by making the poor poorer and the rich richer.
In no way does it help anyone except make them excess money, which simply, is not needed.
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LittleL0L is not online. LittleL0L
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29 Nov 2014 03:07 PM
"Their Job is to satisfy their consumers."

If you don't feel satisfied, then Roblox isn't a game for you.
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SpicyBuilderclub is not online. SpicyBuilderclub
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29 Nov 2014 03:42 PM
If you don't feel satisfied, then Roblox isn't a game for you. [2]
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SpicyBuilderclub is not online. SpicyBuilderclub
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29 Nov 2014 03:45 PM
And btw, if Roblox was greedy, they would have NEVER lowered the price floor.

Because... MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY
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Turbulentflow is not online. Turbulentflow
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29 Nov 2014 03:57 PM
This is all written horribly
Remove it pl0x
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anozoo is not online. anozoo
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29 Nov 2014 04:00 PM
I know you put alot of effort into this post and i kinda agree with you but i can't support because WNTS (yes it still exists)
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davisky2 is not online. davisky2
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29 Nov 2014 04:01 PM
@Little and Spicy

I dont think you get it. You both have BC. But if you live a life that you cant buy BC because you are in other country and you play the game 2 years straight and enjoy it. You just wont get it.

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Well, this is a great suggestion. Even thought WNTS IS still out there, it isnt on the WNTS. I dont think that they will implement this, because you know. They are kinda losing the profits because of DevEx and most people buy now OBC for 1 month and then for lifetime from DevEx money so they dont need to pay anymore.

Yes, this wasnt a huge update, but Roblox might think it is. Because they (i think so) more look of quantum what has changed not how hard was it to do. Well, i hope they will lower it.
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anozoo is not online. anozoo
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29 Nov 2014 04:02 PM
(And yes the pricefloor was a big update)
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badsimon2 is not online. badsimon2
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29 Nov 2014 04:20 PM
Look at all of these goons defending roblox's greed. Just sick.
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SpicyBuilderclub is not online. SpicyBuilderclub
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29 Nov 2014 06:29 PM
Hey, morons who say Roblox is greedy.

Roblox is a company. Run by people, not Bots.

Companies exist to make MONEY.
People need MONEY to SURVIVE.
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cpmoderator12345 is not online. cpmoderator12345
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29 Nov 2014 06:53 PM
op is the greedy one
he wants stuff without a price
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sonihi is not online. sonihi
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29 Nov 2014 06:58 PM
Support.


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CommanderwolfXX is not online. CommanderwolfXX
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29 Nov 2014 06:59 PM
Lets all be like captain olimar go to so-and-so planet and lets get TONS OF MONEY FORM POINTLESS ITEMS moneymoneymoneymoneymoney yeah do that
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sonihi is not online. sonihi
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29 Nov 2014 07:00 PM
It is debatable that you need money to survive. This only applies in developed civilizations where people even have the concept of money.


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sonihi is not online. sonihi
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29 Nov 2014 07:03 PM
@Spicy Oh yeah they would have lowered the pricefloor cause the loss in users would result in lowering ad revenue and less potential BC money. And well if someones friends leave they might leave to making the effect even worse.

Also it is god damn outrageous that at current prices you can afford only 1 shirt a day as BC.


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GeneralFlame183 is not online. GeneralFlame183
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29 Nov 2014 07:03 PM
support
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Despairus is not online. Despairus
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29 Nov 2014 07:36 PM
@Little, Spicy,
"If you don't feel satisfied, then Roblox isn't a game for you."
If I don't feel satisfied, then Roblox isn't doing their Job*


@Spicy,
"And btw, if Roblox was greedy, they would have NEVER lowered the price floor."
If they werent greedy they would've made it far lower than it is now.

"Roblox is a company. Run by people, not Bots."
So then how do you explain false reports..? Or termination appeals that 99% of the time don't appeal at all.

"Companies exist to make MONEY.
People need MONEY to SURVIVE."
Clearly you didn't read anything on section C of the book.


@cpmod,
cpmod is the ignorant one.*
I never mentioned a single thing to do with wanting clothing "without a price".
I want there to be a price, just not so high.
And how am I greedy for wanting something back that we already had for 5 years–affordable clothing?
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LittleL0L is not online. LittleL0L
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29 Nov 2014 07:58 PM
"If I don't feel satisfied, then Roblox isn't doing their Job*"

Quit stealing crap from the thread.
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Despairus is not online. Despairus
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29 Nov 2014 08:15 PM
If only what you just said made sense... :C
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29 Nov 2014 08:28 PM
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29 Nov 2014 08:41 PM
bump
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Emerson30 is not online. Emerson30
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29 Nov 2014 10:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NuONuafxwk
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Bloxks is not online. Bloxks
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29 Nov 2014 10:56 PM
The price floors are a religion now.

Get on yer knees.
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IthacaMedia is not online. IthacaMedia
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29 Nov 2014 11:15 PM
You are wrong that their job is not to make money, but to satisfy customers. It's a mix of both, but with any business, money is needed to survive.

NBC'ers get many opportunities to make money for free, through a well-polished game, Trade Currency, and Game Passes/Developer Products. There maybe more, but those are the 3 ways that I can think of off the top of my head.

Also, remember that you're talking about virtual clothing. You don't need it to have fun on ROBLOX. ROBLOX, at it's core, is a game developing platform, not a virtual outfit site.

Simply learn how to make money as an NBCer. It's not that hard. 10 Tix does add up, especially if you do Trade Currency. You can double that with Trade Currency easily.

Also, if you feel as though you're not getting enough as an NBCer, that's a good reason to buy Builders Club. 6 dollars a month is not a lot. You can make that kind of money doing some work for your parents. Any internet service that can play ROBLOX games costs more.
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DanBossStar321 is not online. DanBossStar321
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30 Nov 2014 12:14 AM
OP is greedy.


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