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| 22 Nov 2014 07:19 PM |
Hi, everyone! I’m Belmont, Chancellor of Nightfall Clan. Today, I’ll be zealously raving about your future - no, not your individual future, but everyone’s future and the future of the whole clan universe as we know it.
There has been a lot of commotion as of recent about a so-called ¨dying¨ clan world; while I don’t see that term as fully accurate, I do consider the current clan universe to be at a gradual decline. In essence, the growth of the clan world has gone beyond stagnation and has fallen into a long road into eventual, distant obscurity. Let me begin with some definitions that I’ve created for this thread’s sake.
I firmly believe that there are two main categories between clans; not mere ¨powerclans¨ and ¨superclans¨, but more rather ¨mainstream¨ clans, and every other clan. The mainstream clans consist of the clans you hear about every day, the clans that everyone on C&G are more or less familiar with - VAK, RAT, FC, WIJ, and so forth, including clans that aren’t always seen in a good light, such as EL and VS. These are the clans that have access to the most resources, that have the most opportunity to grow and develop, able to perform large-measure reforms or actions that most other smaller clans cannot perform. These clans have the foundation and self-establishment in the clan world to build off of.
This leads me to the second and more diverse category of clans - practically every other clan. These are the clans that have formed communities within themselves, clans do not interact and are not associated at all with the previously mentioned mainstream clans. These clans consist of those no one has ever heard of before to clans that quite a few people have heard of, but are no longer considered relevant and do not partake with other main clans.
Part of the reason why I believe the clan world may be in such a decline is the lack of new blood in said mainstream clans. Of course, there are multiple other reasons, but it would be much easier to demonstrate one main factor at a time. When I refer to ¨new blood¨, I don’t refer to individual members (that’s a whole different rant), but rather individual clans. On a daily basis, you hear the same mainstream clans over and over again - VAK and FC this, WIJ and RAT that. You almost never hear about other smaller clans such as Team Bluesteel and Prima Nox outside of their leaders’ posts, war declarations, speeches, and whatnot. The mainstream clan community is small and unforgiving, allowing almost no new clans to be able to enter their walls.
Continuing on leads me to the big question - how can my clan become a mainstream clan? The real answer is bitter yet concise: in this day and age, you simply cannot. You cannot bring your clan among the public behemoths of clans because of the restrictions the mainstream clans have imposed upon everyone. In short, in order to become a ¨relevant¨ clan, you need to have an establishment in the clan world already, and be taken seriously by said relevant clans, or else they will not associate themselves with you, and they will certainly not bother to ally or war you. Therefore, you cannot grow as a clan beyond those boundaries, and you are stuck indefinitely. Thus comes the self-destruction of the clan world.
Let me elaborate. Take UCR, for example. It’s been called out for dying out into obscurity and irrelevance. But is it truly irrelevant? I would say no, because they are still associated with the mainstream and still have the ability to grow and develop. Additionally, it has a tremendous community player base to work off of, giving it the ability to reach back into its roots and bring it back to the spotlight. That’s what makes a relevant clan, even if it’s supposedly at a decline. It’s because it has potential, whether it’s active or inactive, and because it will be taken seriously. Other clans? They have no potential to do so.
They have no potential to do so not only because of the restrictions but also because of the lack of resources. I would dare say that it is nigh impossible to bring a clan from the bottom to the top without a previous establishment (and a very solid one at that) in the clan world or C&G. Without that, you need a tremendous amount of resources to create a solid and stable community that will follow your clan through any highs and lows. RAT has berezaa, FEAR has SONIC, but what can a fledgling clan with a leader with only 3k robux accomplish? Nearly nothing. You would need to be or have access to a very effective game developer, investor, patron, or so forth - even if you’re a brilliant leader who has the potential to make a colossal impact upon clans, if you don’t have the resources to create the clan foundation to work off of, you’re at a loss.
I applaud smaller clans such as TCC and A-SOV for being able to make their way into the clan world despite their tremendously smaller opportunity - however, they either already had establishment in the clan world or were able to feed off of the clan community in order to gain the foundation for their clan. Essentially, you can kick and scream all you want, but without any major attribute that you have as a leader, you cannot make your clan part of mainstream society. There are plenty of great clans out there that no one has even ever heard of, and they can’t make their way with the big shots - not because they aren’t good enough but because no one will care enough to let them.
I’ve stated something like this plenty of times before, but here we go again: the ¨relevant¨ number of clans we have is astonishingly low. You hear the same 10 clans every day, over and over again. It’s always VAK, WIJ, FC, whatever, and because of the reasons they don’t war each other they try and pick on smaller targets - sometimes to demonstrate their power, but mainly because they have no options! In a little while each clan will have warred each other twice and we’ll be heading for round four of VAK v FC (of course, with no concrete result). They can only make ties and war each other endlessly because of the lack of - once again- new blood.
You war within your narrow-minded scope of clans you know and never dare to venture outwards from your cozy little circle because you don’t want to risk damaging your reputation (¨Oh, I can’t war that small unknown clan, everyone will hate me because they’ll think I’ll be picking on some poor, undeserving clan when I should be having part six of the war with RAT!¨).
It’s almost like incest.
I just had this here to see if I could change some minds, have some people think about the situation we’re in a little differently. Perhaps the clan world isn’t at such a decline right now, and it’s just all meaningless speculation, but in the future, the tight chains that bind the relevant 15 clans together will be the chains that suffocate the clan world as we know it as well.
The small clans are the future, and we’re just too selfish and ignorant to acknowledge that. See you all next time.
Best regards, Belmont |
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| 22 Nov 2014 07:20 PM |
| probably gonna be popular, first page. |
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Archteryx
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| 22 Nov 2014 07:22 PM |
| Very interesting. Will read rn. |
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Lucara
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| 22 Nov 2014 07:22 PM |
This looks really interesting
tracking to read later |
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ezaiahs
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| 22 Nov 2014 07:23 PM |
a good deal of effort that will most likely be brushed off by the majority.
I still think that the clan world is fine and will continue to be fine as long as superclans get bigger.
i.e person a joins superclan, person a is in superclan for 2 year, person a grows up a bit and realizes superclan is bad person a starts his own clan with some of his superclan buddies.
the cycle |
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| 22 Nov 2014 07:23 PM |
| tl;dr = clans are killing itself |
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Lucara
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| 22 Nov 2014 07:24 PM |
"person a joins superclan, person a is in superclan for 2 year, person a grows up a bit and realizes superclan is bad person a starts his own clan with some of his superclan buddies."
this is the story all about how
paul321321's life got flipped, turned upside down |
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| 22 Nov 2014 07:25 PM |
@ez As much as I hate such pessimism, you have a point, but I see no harm in trying. I see the clan as an economy (there's a huge parallel I can draw but that's a whole different thread); but whether the clan world will be fixed by itself through its own ¨capitalism¨ (as you seem to advocate) or a more liberal stance, only time will tell
If just a few people think differently about this, I'll be satisfied. I'll be doing something related to this later on. |
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| 22 Nov 2014 07:30 PM |
yes
Acquiring hatred from the human race one post at a time. |
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| 22 Nov 2014 07:31 PM |
10/10 would bang
add 1.2k posts |
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ezaiahs
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| 22 Nov 2014 07:35 PM |
'murica... If something such as the "great depression" happens for the clan world then a little FDR would be needed to fix it up;however, as long as we have a good cycle going(which we still do i.e RAT gaining all those members)we should be good .
:D
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| 22 Nov 2014 07:36 PM |
| http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=149785856 |
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WannaBet
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| 22 Nov 2014 07:40 PM |
| You have a way with words man... I hope you are some sort of writer because you have a real talent for writing. Also, I completely agree, and I think you are on the right track, because before a new age of superclans can begin people need to know what it will take to start those clans, and what is keeping those clans from being made now. |
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Zipples
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| 22 Nov 2014 07:45 PM |
just happy you didnt straight up bash ucr and i wouldnt really say its declining, if anything, its rising
""Oh my gosh guys look at the number below my username! It makes me so special to have such a large number! Respect me because look at my number! NUMBER!" -players who use post botting" -SSJ |
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| 22 Nov 2014 07:48 PM |
@zip I didn't say it was declining, I said that it was perceived as declining. It's been doing alright so far from what I can tell
I don't want to bash any clan because I believe almost all clans have the ability to do well and pick themselves up from a recession (although I'll admit some clans might be too far gone...) |
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| 22 Nov 2014 08:03 PM |
I agree, and developed very similar views during my time leading.
~Kaiser |
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| 23 Nov 2014 10:02 AM |
Brilliantly constructed points.
Though I personally dislike the analogy of mainstream clans standing behind a wall (as it was introduced without any prior lead-in material, it's not really that important though), I like the ideas set forth in this and I would entreat everyone to read this. |
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FML
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| 23 Nov 2014 10:04 AM |
| Good read, caught me off caught with "It's almost like incest". |
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