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Re: Explain how gun clans > sword clans

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Cysira is not online. Cysira
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22 Nov 2014 04:47 AM
apart from 'swords are luck based ogm'


-Cy
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Enflare is not online. Enflare
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22 Nov 2014 04:47 AM
most sword clans are crap

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Cysira is not online. Cysira
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22 Nov 2014 04:49 AM
im actually curious
why are gun clas > sword clans
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Cysira is not online. Cysira
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22 Nov 2014 04:50 AM
ik, but that shouldn't make another type of clan better @enf
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Skyman772 is not online. Skyman772
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22 Nov 2014 04:53 AM
A lot of sword clans are only that way because the individuals who lead it aren't skilled with guns, and therefore believe if they can't do it they should put themselves in an environment where they don't have to.

Gun clans normally use swords purely because it's so easy, and as a result the gun clans have a natural advantage over the sword clans because not only can they beat them in guns, they have a chance at beating them in swords too.

And ontop of that, swordfighting isn't about how good you are or how tactically inclined you are, it's about how fast or slow your internet speed is.
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Tom7896 is not online. Tom7896
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22 Nov 2014 04:54 AM
sword clans are much easier to set up (using the basic troblox sword instead of making your own guns/systems)

in my layman's opinion it's a lazy way of setting up a clan
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Tom7896 is not online. Tom7896
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22 Nov 2014 04:55 AM
@skyman
agreed

also whenever a sword clan wars a guns clan (like ve and rat), they always complain about how unfair their enemy's fort is for not including swords even though it's their fault for not training their own members to use guns
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Skyman772 is not online. Skyman772
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22 Nov 2014 05:07 AM
yeah plus in VE vs RAT at their fort it was us with linked swords vs them with silent admin and katanas

still won the war though LOL
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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22 Nov 2014 05:09 AM
"A lot of sword clans are only that way because the individuals who lead it aren't skilled with guns, and therefore believe if they can't do it they should put themselves in an environment where they don't have to."

you're missing a huge piece of logic in this. what about leaders of a gun clan that aren't good at swords? isn't it possible they'd make a gun clan for not being any good at swords?
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Tom7896 is not online. Tom7896
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22 Nov 2014 05:10 AM
ik

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harna's game was just a free modelled jaredvaldez style game where after 2 weeks it goes for 'kingdom life' to 'raise a family and buy a house!!!!'
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Skyman772 is not online. Skyman772
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22 Nov 2014 05:11 AM
thehar that's besides the point completely

the leader doesn't need to be good at swords in a gunclan, he'd still be able to be good at guns or have members good with guns

the leader of a swordclan would be much more likely to be biased with swords

gunclan leaders dont have that bias, and some don't even bother to fight. period. but they're still able to use a sword OR a gun

with a sword clan, you restrict your own ability
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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22 Nov 2014 05:16 AM
"thehar that's besides the point completely"

no it's not. you idiots come up with incredible logic such as "sf clans suck at guns so they use swords!". i'm just countering your idiocy with reason.


"the leader doesn't need to be good at swords in a gunclan, he'd still be able to be good at guns or have members good with guns

the leader of a swordclan would be much more likely to be biased with swords"

you do know you're starting to sound like a bias idiot right now right?


"gunclan leaders dont have that bias, and some don't even bother to fight. period. but they're still able to use a sword OR a gun"

are you high or just incredibly stupid? most gunclan leaders hate swords and have said so openly.


"with a sword clan, you restrict your own ability"

that's not true at all. a clan is a clan, regardless of the weapons used.


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Neovus is not online. Neovus
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22 Nov 2014 05:37 AM
There's a hundred possible gun mechanics.

There's one viable sword mechanic.
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BigDenchWolf is not online. BigDenchWolf
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22 Nov 2014 05:40 AM
Well, most sword clans are bad except SS and SF, if more were like them then I guess it would be better.

but right now

guns>swords

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adrien99 is not online. adrien99
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22 Nov 2014 05:41 AM
'swords are luck based ogm'

yes, swordfighting is based on luck and lag
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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22 Nov 2014 05:43 AM
"Well, most sword clans are bad except SS and SF, if more were like them then I guess it would be better."

So have you been in every SF clan around and have been able to evaluate your opinion from that?
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BigDenchWolf is not online. BigDenchWolf
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22 Nov 2014 05:49 AM
no but you can clearly see that SF is the best out there.

SS probably following behind.


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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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22 Nov 2014 05:50 AM
"no but you can clearly see that SF is the best out there.

SS probably following behind."

I don't dispute either of these claims. I agree with them. However, what makes every other SF clan bad?
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BigDenchWolf is not online. BigDenchWolf
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22 Nov 2014 05:52 AM
If one clan is clearly ahead of the rest then the other clans must not be that great.

I have nothing against swords, thats just my view.
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obeddivinex is not online. obeddivinex
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22 Nov 2014 05:53 AM
Okay guys, lets think logically.. If there was a 1v1 and a person had a gun and the other had a sword.. who whould fking win

Gun

Gun>sword
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darcolite is not online. darcolite
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22 Nov 2014 05:53 AM
if you were to give gunners guns and sword ppl swords in the same server


what do you thihnk????
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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22 Nov 2014 05:54 AM
"If one clan is clearly ahead of the rest then the other clans must not be that great."

I wouldn't say that Skilled Force is above and beyond RB, EXINCT, SS and one or two others. Although the quality of SF clans have admittedly declined since HC and TDS went under, SF clans are still good.
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Categoric is not online. Categoric
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22 Nov 2014 06:03 AM

"And ontop of that, swordfighting isn't about how good you are or how tactically inclined you are, it's about how fast or slow your internet speed is."

even though this can apply to guns lol
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Neovus is not online. Neovus
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22 Nov 2014 06:04 AM
Aaand my point still stands

gg sword people
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bladedwarrior is not online. bladedwarrior
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22 Nov 2014 06:34 AM
:/ I'm a sword fighter but to be fair guns are probably better than swords firstly because you need tactics you don't just have to hold down spacebar and spam double click if it's new animations. Secondly I've never seen someone try and attempt a ft with guns whereas swords is just heaven for fters. And finally swords includes so many glitches that half the time you arent even going against SFers but SGers, LSers, etc and from what I know the only kind of glitch/exploit (idk what to call it) in guns is LS.
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