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Re: The Political Manifesto [Part II]

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Blackmask2020 is not online. Blackmask2020
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15 Nov 2014 06:53 PM
This is a continued part of what I was talking about earlier;
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=149785856

Here we go. Oh, yeah like stated in my previous thread, this is my opinion on how clan politics work, but this is getting deeper into some stuff that I stated before.

tl;dr

Clans say our community is bad, and maybe that's from who is in the community, and maybe who is in the community is here because of clans. What? Exactly. Let me explain, we have bad people here who say stupid and mean things because we have clans that allow this stuff and leaders who do the same thing.
Take RAA for an example, it's a clan full of trolls and flamers, who much like their leader like to say negative things about others to make themselves feel better, when all in all they're a good clan and don't need to do such thing. We complain that things like this happen, but it's because we let it happen. Clans allow people to be trolls and flame and for that we have them. If we didn't do this, if we stopped letting trolls into our clans and people who are negative into our clans, then we could exterminate them completely off the forums and out of the community. But is the 100% a good idea? In my opinion, no. It's stupid, the variety of people is what makes the clan world interesting, but I don't think we should allow them to act how they do now. I think we should shun those who talk badly about others and shun groups who throw people under themselves for self pride. I think we should completely be non-tolerant to negative comments unless it's constructive criticism. Now I know this wont happen, and that's what war is. Problems between two sides, but it doesn't have to be like this, we don't have to completely bash, slander, lie, and treat our enemies like crap. There is no need for that. It's a problem to the community. It's a virus that infects C&G, and the longer we allow it to stay, the more people who get sick.

Now let's move on to why we allow trolls and flamers into our clans,
First off a lot of them are on C&G, it's a place that has the right temperature, moisture, and conditions for this virus to thrive. To live. And many of us look for C&G's approval, we want to know what they think, when so few will actually give you real opinions that aren't either biased or mean. We still crave their approval. And that's why we allow them into our clans, because we think they mean something, that they'll be active, but in all honesty they'll eventually be inactive or leave, and just trash your clan. Most of these people, these little spores of the virus are clan hoppers that move from clan to clan, infecting them. Look at clans like SF, RAA, or older SC. Built on C&G and they flame the hell out of other clans, lowering these clans to "below" them. People find this attractive, that these people are "loyal" but honestly they're just looking for something to do and someone to insult to make themselves look bigger. They speak more with their words than their actions, and most people believe them. That's why we allow them into our clans. Or some clans at least.

Some clans don't allow such people into their clans, VAK, TGI, VOID, etc. Because they don't want to lower clans, they want to prove what they do not by what they say, but by what they do. Actions speak louder than words. And look at TGI, VAK, and VOID. Looked upon much higher by the average clanner than clans such as SF and RAA*not saying they are bad* this is because people like clans like that. People don't want to see others constantly hating or flaming, people want to see actions. They want to see us walk the walk. People don't like bullies.

Now how are these virus spread and recruited? Well, mainly by C&G. Noobs or new players aren't apart of these virus, actually they're the regular cells to the clan body, us good clanners, so to say are the anti-bodies and we must get to these cells and keep them safe before they are harmed by the virus. Now, C&G is a good place to find these virus and yes they're bad but we can easily cure it by shunning them, taking away the power we give them by replying to them. That's the cure. Kick them out. Don't pay attention. The disease will stop. Done. Dead.x(

Now, let's talk about recruiting. You recruit from ads, ads come from money, and you need a lot of money for a lot of members, good ads, etc. Money is a big thing for ads, that's why it's not the best way to recruit. C&G would be a good way to recruit if it wasn't infected by the plague that we can flamers, the mass of people who insult for nothing. So how else do you recruit? GRP? It's a decent way but not entirely effective. So here's something that people don't understand. You can recruit from war, wars between smaller clans get good loyal members, because usually members are loyal in smaller clans. Or more loyal. Also friends. Recruit friends or acquaintances from past clans. You'll gain a lot more loyalty and activity from that, then you will from ads. Ads are good but not the best. New members need to be sapped and modeled and that goes back to my last thread on how to structure a clan. The bars. If you want more about that, go to it and read it.

To finish this is now, I will state that new members or noobs are good. They're the cells to the clan body, flamers and trolls, members like that are the virus that infects them, makes more of them. Good and regular clanners are the antibodies that need to save the cells from the virus. Clans like RAT, SF, and RAA host these virus' they allow them to spawn and bread, they're clans that need to be shunned as well, blocked out. Because if they don't change then let them have their own part of the clan world a small section where they can war each other and breed alone. Not infecting the clans that actually wish to change.

It all starts with a idea, one person can start an idea, followers join and follow the idea, and nothing can stop an idea. If you go with this idea, if you follow it and do something about it, you will see results.

Post your opinion, and wait for part III where I get deeper into this and explaining what I mean by we need to shun these clans, give them their own area to spawn, if they don't wish to change with us.

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Blackmask2020 is not online. Blackmask2020
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15 Nov 2014 06:58 PM
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Idrialite is not online. Idrialite
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15 Nov 2014 07:01 PM
Cool and a lot of typing.
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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
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15 Nov 2014 07:02 PM
Ehh, not as good as the other one.
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Blackmask2020 is not online. Blackmask2020
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15 Nov 2014 07:02 PM
Worth it.
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Blackmask2020 is not online. Blackmask2020
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15 Nov 2014 07:06 PM
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Blackmask2020 is not online. Blackmask2020
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15 Nov 2014 07:06 PM
It's suppose to go in to more detail, to explain parts of each that I didn't cover in the last. The first was the main idea, the second are just reasons of which we are at the state we are.
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LegoGuy375 is not online. LegoGuy375
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15 Nov 2014 07:10 PM
SUPPORT
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Blackmask2020 is not online. Blackmask2020
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15 Nov 2014 07:11 PM
Lego this is the second time you posted just that, one both. Do you really support or are you just saying that?
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LegoGuy375 is not online. LegoGuy375
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15 Nov 2014 07:40 PM
i really support
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zonzerfog is not online. zonzerfog
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15 Nov 2014 08:13 PM
I got such a moto b0ner.
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Blackmask2020 is not online. Blackmask2020
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15 Nov 2014 08:26 PM
<3
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16 Nov 2014 12:03 AM
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Eat. Sleep. Raid. Repeat.
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Scelus is not online. Scelus
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16 Nov 2014 12:04 AM
You are the virus of the clan world.

You paid for your own rank, you were never a Vaktovian, you are just a poser.

You're just as washed up as any other.
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Blackmask2020 is not online. Blackmask2020
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16 Nov 2014 12:06 AM
Was in VAK as a Captain, #TRR/Jackbourne
Um, didn't ever pay for a rank because that was Arch.

You're the virus, you flame me for something I didn't even do.
Now ta ta.
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