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Re: the theory of evolution by natural selection

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Apsconditus is not online. Apsconditus
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09 Nov 2014 09:40 PM
why do people state that they dont believe in evolution when a belief is subjective and scientific theory is objective

im sorry it doesnt agree with your primitive beliefs but reality doesnt define itself by human preference nor does your refusal to accept substantiality disprove its credibility
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Randomnessu is not online. Randomnessu
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09 Nov 2014 09:40 PM
"theory is objective"

kek
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Apsconditus is not online. Apsconditus
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09 Nov 2014 09:43 PM
okay
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Negativize is not online. Negativize
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09 Nov 2014 09:44 PM
i know one thing

natural selection > you
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bud390 is not online. bud390
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09 Nov 2014 09:44 PM
See what you didn't realize is that the scientific theory of evolution is only proved because it is based on Stephen hawking's "self creating universe" postulate. This postulate however is not technically proven true. So your argument is invalid until you give me definite proof of hawking's theory being true.
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Apsconditus is not online. Apsconditus
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09 Nov 2014 09:46 PM
by definition evolution is a change in the allele frequency of a population over time which can be and has been numerically substantiated by the hardy-weinberg principle
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VaktovianMenace is not online. VaktovianMenace
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09 Nov 2014 09:47 PM
If there is one thing I am sure of in this world, evolution is true.
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Apsconditus is not online. Apsconditus
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09 Nov 2014 09:50 PM
good
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VaktovianMenace is not online. VaktovianMenace
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09 Nov 2014 09:51 PM
Some whales still have vestigial organs.


http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_03
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bud390 is not online. bud390
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09 Nov 2014 09:54 PM
Oh, by all means I believe that microevolution is true, but macroevolution? No, there is no definite proof. And the proof that has been given, like all of those "fossils" are proven counterfeit. Last time I posted a video which had many good points everyone was like tl;dr. I mean ok, if you won't listen to reasonable arguments, then you can't argue me. Not saying that is you. But if I gave you a 30 minute, you'd say the same thing. But if you would say that, then you can't argue, because as you call us stubborn for not listening to "proof", then they were all stubborn for not listening to counterproof
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VaktovianMenace is not online. VaktovianMenace
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09 Nov 2014 09:56 PM
I just gave you proof with vestigial organs. I bet you don't even believe that humans are animals.
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bud390 is not online. bud390
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09 Nov 2014 10:09 PM
Lemme get the name of the video. I forget it. But it actually talks about whales specifically in it and refutes the main points that evolutionists use whales as evidence.
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bud390 is not online. bud390
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09 Nov 2014 10:10 PM
And it's no bill nye ken Hamm crap both of those guys are idiots
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paylay is not online. paylay
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09 Nov 2014 10:10 PM
Trying to make people believe in evolution; just stop.
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VaktovianMenace is not online. VaktovianMenace
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09 Nov 2014 10:12 PM
No he didn't. You don't know what you are talking about. Young Earth Creationism is a religion not a science.
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Yoshiandluigi3 is not online. Yoshiandluigi3
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09 Nov 2014 10:13 PM
wow i just realized we went almost one day without a thread on evolution
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VaktovianMenace is not online. VaktovianMenace
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09 Nov 2014 10:15 PM
I can't believe you people. Evolution is NOT a religious conviction. It is a theory supported by mountains of scientific research.
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bud390 is not online. bud390
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10 Nov 2014 06:00 PM
Microevolution sure. But as I said before. There is no definite proof without claiming that Stephen hawking's self creating universe is proven true. So is evolution the origin of the universe? Not until you prove the self creating universe theory.
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ertad678678 is not online. ertad678678
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10 Nov 2014 06:04 PM
Evolution is still yet to be totally proven.
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MechaGodziIIa is not online. MechaGodziIIa
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10 Nov 2014 06:05 PM
The file "evolution.exe" could not be found, as it does not exist. OK
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GoshiDoll is not online. GoshiDoll
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10 Nov 2014 06:09 PM
Arguments revolved around topics such as these always go down in the same way.

One person keeps thinking they're right and say they've provided "evidence" while the other person does the same thing. It eventually goes off topic and they stop arguing out of exhaustion.
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GoldNHeart is not online. GoldNHeart
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10 Nov 2014 06:10 PM
"I bet you don't even believe that humans are animals."


I know this wasn't aimed at me cuz I just got here, but how can anyone not believe in a fact? I don't really get why people hate the fact that humans are animals.. it's not a bad thing..
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3km is not online. 3km
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10 Nov 2014 06:17 PM
evolution is the process of change in living organisms

as the technique of rna proofreading and dna proofreading are not completely precise in organisms these create mutations or changes in the animal. for example, a giraffe. did it evolve longer necks to get to taller trees? that's bull. did multiple generations of random mutations make longer necks, thus creating a better chance to survive because it allows giraffes to eat from taller trees? yes.

natural selection is when bad mutations are rooted out and beneficial mutations are passed on. of course a beneficial mutation could be rooted out because nature randomly decides to kill or not, so of course there's that.

now with the theory of evolution better explained, do you think this is possible?
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Apsconditus is not online. Apsconditus
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10 Nov 2014 09:46 PM
i dont even acknowledge people who say that humans arent animals
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bud390 is not online. bud390
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10 Nov 2014 10:06 PM
Sure we are animals. But we are animals with souls. Scientifically sure we are animals, but we are much more than just animals
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