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Re: If you want to help the clan world from its recession:

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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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09 Nov 2014 02:52 PM
begin helping by diversifying power for the less influential clans

In C&G you always see the same 7-8 clans being constantly repeated and brought up, therefore further implanting them into people's heads, and thus making everyone flock to them because of their reputation

this consolidates power into a handful of clans, which does several of the following:
- very little major war activity b/c the most powerful clans, having already warred the other big clans and understanding that it's futile (i.e. constant ties, draws, drama and predictable outcomes), then proceed to war smaller and less powerful clans that don't share the same notoriety and attraction and stomp on them
- just makes clans boring

I applaud the smaller, less fortunate clans that have worked very well and brought themselves into the spotlight w/o necessarily ¨hype¨ and made themselves relevant (i.e. A-SOV)

by diversifying power I mean cutting down at the big guns (you know which clans they are) because they already have substantial strength, and focus on smaller, less fortunate clans

wouldn't it be more reasonable for someone introduced to the main clan world, instead of being pulled into the top 5 clans, be able to choose between, say, 20 different clans, each with their own perks and shortcomings?

I sense all the cynics closing in on me to carp at me, but this was all worth it if it made people think a little differently; I know I bring this up a lot, but this really needs to get through people's heads.

TL;DR it's stupid and boring if the clan world essentially revolved around the same 10 clans
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Ghost0ps is online. Ghost0ps
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09 Nov 2014 02:52 PM
I agree.
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Resalth is not online. Resalth
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09 Nov 2014 02:53 PM
no it's fun seeing people talk about the hype
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Imitater is not online. Imitater
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09 Nov 2014 02:53 PM
and then the trash clans become the new powerclans and the whole process in repeated
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Enzo01234 is not online. Enzo01234
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09 Nov 2014 02:53 PM
riu is coming11

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StratusNinja is not online. StratusNinja
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09 Nov 2014 02:53 PM
*cough* My Primary.

Heh.

Emperor || Empire of Stratus || New clan, enlist today!
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Ghost0ps is online. Ghost0ps
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09 Nov 2014 02:53 PM
Why not balance them then?
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Imitater is not online. Imitater
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09 Nov 2014 02:54 PM
also it is simple human nature to want to be the best/ known to be with the best

vak is only famous because it is known for being one of the best

why would anyone join a bad clan except for free vip (rat)
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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09 Nov 2014 02:55 PM
imitater I'm not talking about flocking all your resources to said ¨trash clans¨, I'm talking about diversifying (keyword) said power so that it's a little more balanced

it's never going to be perfect and I understand that, but it can't be so polarized as it is now

another point I missed was since everyone enjoys declining wars, this makes it less frequent because there wouldn't be the same 3 clans looking to war the same top group
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Bredf is not online. Bredf
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09 Nov 2014 02:55 PM
imitater you take this game too seriously m8
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Imitater is not online. Imitater
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09 Nov 2014 02:57 PM
the only thing we could possibly do now is try to stop squeezing all the juice out of the rotten orange of clans by making trash clan leaders less arrogant

etc you do not war TGI or VAK or WIJ or FC or VOID after 3 days of creation
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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09 Nov 2014 02:59 PM
my preferred method is getting more... competent people to climb the ranks of said trash clans

Because face it, the more competent won't be able to handle a lot of the poor conduct of said trash clans and thus will flock to the larger clans, and so what are the trash clans left with? nothing to progress

you can be pessimistic all you want, I don't really want to stand for what's going on right now, because imitater I understand you just fine, and that's the original attitude I have, but this is better than becoming a cynic and laissez faire-ing the world
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Imitater is not online. Imitater
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09 Nov 2014 03:02 PM
vip clans are the problem
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maggierocks33 is not online. maggierocks33
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09 Nov 2014 03:04 PM
go small groups wohoo
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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09 Nov 2014 03:06 PM
i'll be perfectly honest and i know many people are going to disagree but i don't mind vip clans, because using vip is just another means of recruitment as is running ads or manually recruiting people

vip clans simply have a poor connotation to them because of poor role models such as TD (didn't actually give VIP, took advantage of members and cheated them), and let's face it TD generally wasn't a good clan

vip clans should use their vip marketing as a means to have them join the clan, and then it's up to the leaders to persuade the members not to join merely for the benefits but also for the clan itself
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Imitater is not online. Imitater
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09 Nov 2014 03:08 PM
powerclans were the solution to the problem and now they are failing due to vip clans and trash vip clans
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TheDeadspawn is not online. TheDeadspawn
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09 Nov 2014 03:11 PM
vip clans are bad.
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xPraetorius is not online. xPraetorius
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09 Nov 2014 03:11 PM
^ did u just repeat urself in the sentence..

i di everytiem
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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
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09 Nov 2014 03:14 PM
Most clans outside of the 8 - 9 main power clans are weak and stupid because their leader is incapable.

Or like myself, get attacked at every corner for innovating.

Do I really care about being constantly denounced? No.
A clan is about it's strength, not it's popularity.
We can function with 19 members very well.
VOID has proven that.

- The Khaasai
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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09 Nov 2014 03:17 PM
@harb

You're misinterpreting this. This is a call for the more competent and capable potential leaders and clanspeople to support those outside clans, and through this said capable people are able to climb the ranks quickly and eventually acquire a leadership position
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Imitater is not online. Imitater
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09 Nov 2014 03:19 PM
the process is happening belmont

etc domeboybeene vak colonel left to form his own cln
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Belmontlegend255 is not online. Belmontlegend255
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09 Nov 2014 03:21 PM
thing is it's really difficult to start your clan from the bottom up, only a few modern clans have managed to accomplish that on their own successfully (i.e. TCC), so it's generally easier to join a less powerful clan (but there are some clans that have already dropped too far down anyway)

and i'm just trying to make it more public
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StratusNinja is not online. StratusNinja
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09 Nov 2014 03:25 PM
Mhm. I'm starting a clan, but as you said, it's hard to gain recognition.

Emperor || Empire of Stratus || New clan, enlist today!
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Harbynger is not online. Harbynger
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09 Nov 2014 04:08 PM
But these outside clans tend to have bad names too.

Clans like Tenebrosity are sitting in the middle of relevant and irrelevant, and it's difficult to get towards the relevant side.

I agree, we need more clans in this clan roster to succeed, but our community has a tough time saying which one to go for.

- The Khaasai
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DesertProduction is not online. DesertProduction
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09 Nov 2014 04:09 PM
that's why you should invest all of your time in the grineer

bull mooses | V401, 1 day'd
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