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Re: Loleris: He's not unoriginal nor a copier.

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SuperMemeBoy is not online. SuperMemeBoy
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08 Nov 2014 04:41 PM
This post is going to be short and sweet.

Loleris is not greedy, idea copier, unoriginal, or whatever else you describe him. Loleris is an innovator. Innovators make changes in anything already established.

Now that you read this, think about it.
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EquableManax is not online. EquableManax
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08 Nov 2014 04:42 PM
I did think about it and my views of him didn't change

gg
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LonelyTree is not online. LonelyTree
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08 Nov 2014 04:42 PM
so hes original
but hes not
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Imaginator113 is not online. Imaginator113
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08 Nov 2014 04:42 PM
He's nor unorginal nor a copier*

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SuperMemeBoy is not online. SuperMemeBoy
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08 Nov 2014 04:42 PM
@LonelyTree: If that's your definition of "innovation", then sure.
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silentwolftail is not online. silentwolftail
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08 Nov 2014 04:43 PM
I already knew he wasnt any of that so ill just add to your post.

If someone makes a car

then someone remakes that car with a GPS, lights ( on the inside), one of those mini TVs, and a radio, is that considered copying?
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LonelyTree is not online. LonelyTree
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08 Nov 2014 04:43 PM
hm
but
hes still taking the general idea of a game (paintball)
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rany100 is not online. rany100
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08 Nov 2014 04:43 PM
so uh, what'd he innovate into the murder concept?

adding (broken) powerups to a gamemode?

hasn't that been done in every platformer, fps, strategy, etc. already?
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silentwolftail is not online. silentwolftail
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08 Nov 2014 04:44 PM
Taking the general idea of a game doesnt mean copying.

Do you know how many FPS war-based games there are right now?
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EquableManax is not online. EquableManax
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08 Nov 2014 04:44 PM
@rany he innovated useless thumbnails and "updates"
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Scootrbro is not online. Scootrbro
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08 Nov 2014 04:44 PM
I still don't appreciate him

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rany100 is not online. rany100
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08 Nov 2014 04:45 PM
@Equable
he's following in the footsteps of other false thumbnailers. no way he's clever enough to think of that markerting ploy all by himself.
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silentwolftail is not online. silentwolftail
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08 Nov 2014 04:46 PM
@Equable

Please play each game

Murder Mystery

Murder

The Mad Murderer

Roblox Murderer

Twisted Murderer

Play each one and tell me that they are all exactly the same.

They are not. Why is everyone hating on Loleris and not taymaster?
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LonelyTree is not online. LonelyTree
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08 Nov 2014 04:46 PM
@sil
didnt say he was copying

super said "Loleris is not greedy, idea copier," "idea copier"
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silentwolftail is not online. silentwolftail
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08 Nov 2014 04:47 PM
You cant copy an idea.

Well, you can but Loleris didnt

A murder game is a basic concept.

an FPS game is a basic concept.

A puzzle game is a basic concept.

A zombie survival game is a basic concept.

ANY survival game is a basic concept


It doesnt mean im copying cause i decided to make one.
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EquableManax is not online. EquableManax
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08 Nov 2014 04:48 PM
@silent I played all those games, and can confirm they are all the same

For example, the murder has a knife, the sheriff has a gun, 3 classes of people (Innocent, Murder, Sheriff)
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SuperMemeBoy is not online. SuperMemeBoy
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08 Nov 2014 04:48 PM
It's pretty understandable that Loleris has studied about marketing. If you somehow get 21 million place visits, and maintain your spot in the 'Top Earning' rank, you can't say he's not clever.

All of those things where you see 'Toilet update' or '100 PP', and funny thumbnail spoofs. All of that just means he wants to attract people every day. And that IS a marketing technique. It may not be the most favorable one by many, but hey, that's just how things get sometimes.
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rany100 is not online. rany100
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08 Nov 2014 04:48 PM
@silentwolftail

that's like saying reboots of pacman, tetris, pong, etc. aren't the same thing.

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silentwolftail is not online. silentwolftail
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08 Nov 2014 04:49 PM
@Equable

And guess what?

All the games have variations.


They all have the same basic concept, but with variations.

Its called innovations.

Now get out.

Cause you just got rekt.
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Jack2063 is not online. Jack2063
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08 Nov 2014 04:49 PM
loleris just makes games, and he does a damn good job of it.

JACK2063ツ
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rany100 is not online. rany100
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08 Nov 2014 04:49 PM
studied marketing?

MARIO03456789

the most generic game maker on the game page is currently 1st place on top of the list.

i'm sure this 12 year old didn't think long and hard before he learned lieing is the best way to get visits.
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Scootrbro is not online. Scootrbro
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08 Nov 2014 04:49 PM
originality dose not exist on Roblox

everything is just a kiddie downgraded poormans version of a AAA game title
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silentwolftail is not online. silentwolftail
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08 Nov 2014 04:50 PM
@rany but those reboots were made by the original owner.
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EquableManax is not online. EquableManax
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08 Nov 2014 04:50 PM
"funny thumbnail spoofs"

all his thumbnail 'updates' were not funny and seemed way to serious to be a joke
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LonelyTree is not online. LonelyTree
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08 Nov 2014 04:50 PM
@sil

yes but
he basically took nikkis's or whatever idea

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