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Re: Law and Law Enforcement Ideas for the Nation of Scotland

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Raskolnikov716 is not online. Raskolnikov716
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07 Nov 2014 03:25 PM

A specific breakdown of all the laws and minimum and maximum punishments for each of them is needed. Otherwise, we leave the law to the discretion of law enforcement officers and government officials. Ideally, this should not be the case.

Currently in Scotland, most people are arrested using an arrest tool for Reckless Driving, as there are few other crimes one can be convicted of (no guns or private property). The perpetrator (alleged perpetrator) is then forced to spend several hundred seconds in a cell before being released without further punishment.

This is illegal.

[CRIME AND CONVICTION]

There is nowhere in the constitution or the law code that says you must spend a certain amount of time in a jail cell. These alleged perpetrators are locked up without trial and without a law saying they must be thrown in jail. If there was a law that said, "Those caught driving recklessly must spend a minimum of one minute in jail and a maximum of three minutes in jail," that would be a different matter. But even that is not satisfactory because the conviction of the crime is being judged by a police officer and not a jury of his peers.

A better way to handle this is to give cars only to people who have licences, either a gamepass or a shirt or something, or some other in-game mechanic. If the driver is caught driving recklessly, the officer would have the ability to temporarily revoke the driver's license, stopping him from driving cars until his court date. If the driver wants to get his license back, he must arrange a court date. This can be applied to almost any crime. If one player kills another (not really possible at Edinburgh) he would be arrested, but only after his trial would his actual punishment be decided. After being arrested his weapon would be taken away and he would be released until trial.

[COURTS AND THE JUDICIARY SYSTEM]

After our would-be murder has his weapon taken away, he schedules a court date, which is always the nearest Saturday. Crown Prosecutors and Defenders are people trained in the (newly updated) Law Code and must be active every Saturday. The same goes for Judges. Prosecutors bring evidence against the defendant, while the Defender tries to (duh) defend his client. The Judge records the trial and makes sure both parties act politely and follow court guidelines. After the court has concluded, the Judge then posts the video on YouTube. A randomly selected Jury watches the video and then votes on whether the defendant is guilty or not.

In this way a stable, fair, and democratic court system is presided over. Crimes now become a much more serious thing with official courts, but also less innocent people would be unfairly subjected to jail time and other punishments.

If the crime the alleged perpetrator is convicted for is not a law, he MUST go free, and can even bring a court case against the officer who wronged him or her.

In this similar way can all citizens bring court cases against anyone in the government, although the Judge can decide if the case is too frivolous for the court to occupy it's time with (guidelines for this in law code, and all courts must be recorded and cataloged to ensure fair treatment).

[CONCLUSION]

A fair, active, and democratic court system is essential to any society that calls itself fair, active, and democratic. As always, I welcome all questions/concerns/constructive criticism.
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Lexatus is not online. Lexatus
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07 Nov 2014 03:27 PM
Scottish people are greedy, self centered fools that think they should have more than everyone else in the UK, despite having more control than anywhere else in the UK
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Raskolnikov716 is not online. Raskolnikov716
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07 Nov 2014 04:52 PM
That's not really relevant to the discussion, and I very much doubt any of that is true as well. I'm sure that there are plenty of greedy, self-centered fools who belong to every nation on Earth. It's folly to judge an entire people, however.
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ChernayaAkula is not online. ChernayaAkula
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07 Nov 2014 04:53 PM
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
I'm guessing you've never been to Scotland, right?
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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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07 Nov 2014 04:57 PM
I'm Scottish, and to be honest, both of you are ignorant brats. [par op]
You have absolutely no idea why the case for independence was made, and we were only WANTED in the uk because of westminster's greed and self-obsession.
We pay more in taxes proportionally than you do, which makes the case for higher funding - if that's what you're trying to refer to.
However, JordTodd's Scotland isn't very representative of the actual nation.

Thank you to Glasgow, Dundee, West Dunbartonshire and North Lanarkshire for being the only sane areas in Scotland.
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Raskolnikov716 is not online. Raskolnikov716
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07 Nov 2014 06:57 PM
You're right, Jord's Scotland needs a lot of work, and that is something we are trying to accomplish as we prepare for the next election.
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Lexatus is not online. Lexatus
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08 Nov 2014 08:12 AM
@Ross, West Minister doesn't control scottish taxes. It hasn't since the 1980's. blame your 'minister'. You get double the funding of england, for only 5 million people.
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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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08 Nov 2014 08:19 AM
lexatus, it appears you have absolutely NO idea what you're talking about.
firstly, the scottish parliament was created in 1997. NOT THE 80S.
I'm not religious, unless you're referring to the first minister?

Double the funding of England? Gosh, you're hilarious.
Scotland pays £11,079 in taxes per capita.
The UK on average pays £9,342 in taxes per capita.
Scotland gets £12,629 in public spending per capita.
The UK on average gets £11,381 in public spending per capita.
Double? What on earth are you talking about?

Thank you to Glasgow, Dundee, West Dunbartonshire and North Lanarkshire for being the only sane areas in Scotland.
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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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08 Nov 2014 08:20 AM
Yet another blunder from our resident fool: Scotland has control of the top rate of income tax, BARELY ANYTHING ELSE.
It can't control VAT, air passenger duty, the bedroom tax [although it did subsidise those with it], the poll tax [when it existed], capital gains tax, inheritance tax, the list goes on.

Thank you to Glasgow, Dundee, West Dunbartonshire and North Lanarkshire for being the only sane areas in Scotland.
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Lexatus is not online. Lexatus
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08 Nov 2014 08:27 AM
Yes first minister.

Look, i would support the call for independence if they took the north of the UK, instead of just 'Scotland' Scotland has control of it's tax, they contributed 53bn last year, and they get 80bn in return. Alex Salmond is a lying fol, an idiot, to be exact.



i hate whitehall just as much as the next guy, but it'd of been a mistake to get independence with salmond incharge, or the SNP for that matter. If i got the chance to call for independence, I would've taken the nort of the island. which is from bottomt of wales up to the top of scotland.

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Raskolnikov716 is not online. Raskolnikov716
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08 Nov 2014 08:32 AM
While I encourage active political debate, I was really looking for more of a discussion about the original post, about the ideas for laws.
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Lexatus is not online. Lexatus
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08 Nov 2014 08:34 AM
@Rask, Sorry.



Use the general laws that are used IRL in scotland.
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rossb654mail is not online. rossb654mail
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08 Nov 2014 10:45 AM
They contributed 53billion of taxes set by the UK! My god..
@OP, you should definitely have Sheriff courts to deal with crime. JotP and High courts are also useful.

Thank you to Glasgow, Dundee, West Dunbartonshire and North Lanarkshire for being the only sane areas in Scotland.
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Raskolnikov716 is not online. Raskolnikov716
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08 Nov 2014 04:03 PM
@Lex, those laws aren't very useful. Many of them either don't apply or translate badly to ROBLOX.
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