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my friend thinks goku could beat the flash in a fight

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Polycube is not online. Polycube
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06 Nov 2014 06:05 PM
well clearly youre all forgetting his saiyan blood -______-

but seriously im pretty sure goku would win, if anything the flash could do tons of punches that wouldnt faze goku
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Necrobloxxicon is not online. Necrobloxxicon
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06 Nov 2014 06:06 PM
flash could grab him and shake him at the speed of light until he combusts due to kinetic energy.
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Larney is not online. Larney
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06 Nov 2014 06:06 PM
@cleff
The flash doesn't only control speed tho

like everyone keeps saying, he control times, and can go 'infinitely' fast, so he could be running while goku was still THINKING about teleporting, he could severely beat him

-I'm an expeят ツ
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94e is not online. 94e
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06 Nov 2014 06:17 PM
Dragon Ball > Dragon Ball Z > Battle of Gods > Dragon Ball GT
Also, at the end of Battle of Gods, Goku was stronger than the strongest thing in the universe. Though, he didn't defeat him either. Goku learned that there are still other universes and things/people stronger than Lord Bills. At the end of Dragon Ball GT, Goku became the most strongest thing/creature in existence.
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94e is not online. 94e
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06 Nov 2014 06:18 PM
Also, the stronger Goku gets, the faster he gets.
So, by logic that does mean Goku also became the fastest thing in existence.
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CIeff is not online. CIeff
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06 Nov 2014 06:30 PM
@Lar

goku fires one huge blast at earth = win

or if goku manages to grab hold of flash, he could just put him in space
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Eguanazor is not online. Eguanazor
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06 Nov 2014 06:41 PM
"goku is planet busting level and you think just speed can beat him"

so is flash


"At the end of Dragon Ball GT, Goku became the most strongest thing/creature in existence."

GT isn't canon


"but seriously im pretty sure goku would win, if anything the flash could do tons of punches that wouldnt faze goku"

flash's punches hit harder than goku, flash could simply steal goku's speed and it'd be an insta-win, flash could face his fist into goku's head and crush his brain, flash could run back in time and kill baby goku, etc etc


"Also, the stronger Goku gets, the faster he gets.
So, by logic that does mean Goku also became the fastest thing in existence."

except the speed force is the dimension of speed, all speed in existence comes from the speed force, and as flash gains his powers directly from the speed force he can move faster than anything in existence and then even faster than that (hence "infinite speed")


"or if goku manages to grab hold of flash, he could just put him in space"

goku wouldn't be able to even touch flash, since flash is way faster. even if goku somehow managed to catch up, the flash would just phase through him. and if the flash wanted to, he could just put goku in the speed force and trap him there forever or just kill him there since the flash can run without limit in the speed force
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Eguanazor is not online. Eguanazor
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06 Nov 2014 06:51 PM
"well clearly youre all forgetting his saiyan blood -______-"

saiyan blood only works if he recovers after being fatally wounded

why would the flash just let goku get away to recover
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CIeff is not online. CIeff
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06 Nov 2014 07:07 PM
wtf flash is FAR from planet busting level
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Eguanazor is not online. Eguanazor
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06 Nov 2014 07:18 PM
@cleff

infinite mass punch

look it up

also technically speaking the flash could scramble a planet's molecular structure and disintegrate it (though that'd take a lot of energy and would be pretty hard)
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94e is not online. 94e
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06 Nov 2014 07:24 PM
@Eguanazor,
You obviously didn't read everything.
According to, Akira Toriyama GT is canon.
This is the list of shows in order of timeline:
Dragon Ball > Dragon Ball Z > Battle of Gods > Dragon Ball GT
You can't tell the CEO what his series is.
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Eguanazor is not online. Eguanazor
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06 Nov 2014 07:25 PM
@cleff

also you don't need to be on a planet busting level to beat somebody in a duel

same reason a hero like accelerator, who is hardly a city-busting character, could stand a chance against goku in a duel: he can redirect anything that touches him which could just make goku kill himself trying to hit him. it's a duel, not a competition as to who can cause the most destruction
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94e is not online. 94e
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06 Nov 2014 07:27 PM
Also, at the end of Battle of Gods - Goku was capable of destroying the entire universe. At the end of GT, he could destroy everything.
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94e is not online. 94e
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06 Nov 2014 07:28 PM
That wouldn't kill Goku.
I can't even.
You've never even watched half of Dragon Ball, have you?
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Eguanazor is not online. Eguanazor
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06 Nov 2014 07:32 PM
"You can't tell the CEO what his series is."

you know books don't have CEOs, right? the AUTHOR also never said GT is canon, in fact he had no part in writing GT and since GT is extremely inconsistent and contradicts itself many times, it isn't regarded as canon by anybody except fanboys

either way since goku has no way of interacting against the speed force, he is still completely incapable of doing anything about the flash stealing his speed and thus the flash would still win
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Eguanazor is not online. Eguanazor
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06 Nov 2014 07:35 PM
"You've never even watched half of Dragon Ball, have you?"

lmao all you've been saying is nonsense about the series you're trying to defend

"there are 5 versions of kid goku in the comics"

"even as Kid Goku he was still the same old powerful Goku."

"I'm talking about the comic book that follows the television series."

you clearly have no idea what you're saying
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94e is not online. 94e
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06 Nov 2014 07:35 PM
You are a moron, aren't you? You don't know anything about Flash or Dragon Ball. Hell, I bet you don't even know anything about Detective Comics!
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Eguanazor is not online. Eguanazor
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06 Nov 2014 07:41 PM
dragon ball and dragon ball z

that is all toriyama akira wrote

dragon ball GT is agreed to be an unrelated alternate timeline

and even if you were to argue that it still counts in the fight (even though it shouldnt), then flash could just go to the original and canonical timeline
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94e is not online. 94e
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06 Nov 2014 07:47 PM
Toriyama specifically said Dragon Ball GT is part of the plot and takes place in the same universe.

Also, Dragon Ball GT makes perfect sense.
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Eguanazor is not online. Eguanazor
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06 Nov 2014 07:51 PM
@94e

he never said that. you didn't even know who he was at first, you thought the "ceo" of dragon ball said that. you're obviously just making stuff up

and no, it doesn't make sense. there are several pretty significant contradictions and inconsistencies
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94e is not online. 94e
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06 Nov 2014 10:04 PM
@Egu,
Flash = The Red Blur
That obviously means people can see him.

Goku = Where the hell did he go?
You can't see him when he moves or teleports.

Goku is faster than Flash.
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Eguanazor is not online. Eguanazor
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06 Nov 2014 10:16 PM
it's nice to see you've realized how stupid you've been this entire time
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94e is not online. 94e
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06 Nov 2014 10:17 PM
ikr lol
it was fun being a no life in a nerd argument
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