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| 02 Nov 2014 04:34 PM |
[Introduction]: On the 2nd November 2014, RAT was made aware of the conclusion of war between TGI & RAT with the result ending in a ‘draw’. As a High Command we feel this is not an acceptable or accurate representation of the war and feel we can justify the reasons for victory. In the following thread you will find evidence and justification to prove where we have drawn this conclusion from.
[Declaration of War & Refusal to Negotiate]: We would like to first of all highlight the fact that it was TGI that declared war on The Roblox Assault Team on October 29th, 2014 without any initial discussion between Rodgerdodger and Polymorphic. We were notified through the forums and not direct communication that there was to be no negotiation in relation to the war terms set out by TGI. On several different occasions attempts were made to discuss with rodgerdodger about war negotiations, rodgerdodger had either refused, claiming there would be no war terms, or was not online. BoostPowah, a Lord in TGI, had received a copy of the war terms proposed by the RAT HiCOM as well. TGI was well aware of what they were getting themselves into. A few days prior to their war declaration, TGI had defeated The Roblox Assault Team at Sierra several times in response to a raid launched against their fort. Rodgerdodger took this as a sign of hostility, and promptly posted on the forums along with TGI of their victories against RAT, bragging that they won easily and flaunting their victory pictures.
[List of wins]: Over the duration of the war so far, The Roblox Assault Team has managed to accumulate a total of thirteen victories upon The Grand Imperium. Each and every victory can be found in the following album of pictures. Please keep in mind that there are approximately two victories that have been withheld from the album as they did not seem authentic and the Frostarian high command wanted to prevent even further controversy. The album can be found here: /a/Qpjo3
One thing that should not be forgotten is the rule that rodgerdodger implemented the “Edict of Uniformity” (during the war, may I add!) that states all raids between 8:00 AM EST and 5:30 PM EST are declared invalid, which completely isolates the GMT members in RAT and does not give them a chance to fight. TGI seemed to have forgotten that they declared war on RAT as a whole, and not one simple timezone in our clan. If TGI are not able to divide their activity up into different timezones, RAT should not have to pay the price.
Additionally, regarding the halloween situation we believe the rumours of our Office of Naval Intelligence, Sierra being shut down with the intent of fraudulent foulplay to be greatly exaggerated and untrue. Whilst we appreciate the inconvenience laid upon The Grand Imperium and it’s constituents as a result of this incident we would like to officially dispel all claims as pure assumption and not backed with sufficient evidence. The Roblox Assault Team officially closed Sierra due to a social event being held within RAT an hour earlier than we were supposed to. We had, however, defeated every server of defend before the fort was closed for the night. Nothing was done forcefully. We take full responsibility for closing the fort but give liability to TGI for keeping their fort open on top of that. TGI was never deprived of the option to close Stronghold I, and therefore had full ability to kick or ban raiders that were participating while Sierra was taken down.
[Cheating done by TGI]: Throughout the war we were made aware of several points of “cheating” (as TGI would put it) by TGI. For the duration of this war, TGI has done nothing but constantly flame our members at their base, and at Sierra, when things were looking bad for their server. If our team started to win - out came the flames, and the threats. It’s been a generally poor experience having to interact with TGI due to many reasons, which include blatant refusal to negotiate terms, extreme amounts of complaining and high ranks ordering members not to defend more than one server. RAT was hoping for a fun and challenging war, but all we got was a group that just couldn’t handle losing, refused to cooperate, and complained about things rather than dealing with the problem directly with the appropriate attitude. Below you can find just a few examples of TGI members flaming and refusing to defend.
TGI leaving mid raid to make the bomb stop functioning B25XrTy FNpT2oB More allies than TGI, this was tactic TGI used more, however it was only recorded once RpzUyCC Refusal to defend - this came more than once, such as brandon6099 claiming “We’re not defending, we’ll lose” 1uFsSZj Album of flame and other fun goodies a/AskmO
[Discussion of the Supposed “Cheating”]: On the thread, “A conclusive end to an unsavory conflict” as written by rodgerdodger, there were many ‘unsavory’ claims of us (RAT as a whole) cheating. There were several claims made against RAT, and below will be a thorough breakdown on each point made by TGI.
“Raiders - Full Sprint to Terminal - 1 minute 45 seconds RAT - Full Sprint to Terminal - 30 seconds.” Sierra, as obviously seen, does give RAT a special advantage when it comes to spawn points. We naturally spawn closer to the terminal. This is not done to make it impossible for you to raid. If you have actually previously raided the fort, you’ll find that the terminal time is set at 7 minutes. A drop in the bucket compared to the everyday 25 minute terminal. Forts are going to naturally have an advantage to the defending team, because the raiding team will, 9 times out of 10, flood the server and take up as many slots as they can. Who would want to be in a situation where its a 23 vs 7, unable to properly defend? Raiding would be a cakewalk. Besides, such mechanic was in the game prior to the war - in fact it has been in the game for the duration since its release. This is not new. You knew this was coming. Complaining now about this mechanic is not an option.
“RAT’s Guns doing more damage” Sometime last night, there was a wild claim going around that talked about how the RAT Team’s weaponry (exclusively), was dealing double the damage than the raiding team was dealing. I’d like to open this by first asking -- If this was true, how would wins previous to this war be obtained had we been dealing double damage? Even so, V O I D, as confirmed by jimmywind over TS3, had raided us during the TGI-RAT war and managed a win against our members. This is clearly not the case. After discussion with rodgerdodger, I revealed to him the way that damage was handled. The damage in the shop you see is not a constant damage. Each player will be assigned a base damage for that gun that will be offsetted by a few damage points either positively or negatively. In the video you saw rodgerdodger and boost fighting in, the weapons rodgerdodger had were negatively affected by this system, while boost was more than obviously positively affected. This goes for both teams, both teams can have a lower or higher base damage. The context of the video looks bad, but the system itself is neutral. Since then, the damage system has been removed and TGI has still to defeat us at our fort. Sierra in itself is not a fort you can simply rush into - it is a fort that requires teamwork and a plan. I cannot be at fault for something out of my control. Rodgerdodger was given the opportunity to, on a join me, view the source code of the scripting at Sierra to confirm there was no such malicious mechanic in place, but refused to view the join me. If you would like to read more about this claim, I must direct your attention to an entirely different thread: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=149009279
[Regarding RAT Exploiting]: The RAT High Command only received evidence of KryptedX using cheat engine to enhance his performance just this morning, no punishment was given as the director of the division in which he was meant to be removed from was unable to come on so early in the day. We apologize for the inconvenience and said user has been dealt with.
[Conclusion]: Obviously, over the past few days both clans have been dealing with plenty of drama. However, RAT’s High Command is willing to continue the war so long as TGI continues to use Stronghold I as it is the base that the war started out with, and it should also be the base the war ends with. In addition to reverting back to SHI, we also request that both the RAT and TGI high command meet to discuss official war terms as well as potential edits to Sierra and Stronghold I. The high commands of both groups must meet to discuss and agree on war terms for the war to continue and be set in stone. This is to prevent wild claims of cheating and “double damaging weaponry”, as well as to put the war in a controlled environment where we can truly judge what is okay and not okay. TGI has until 12:00 AM EST on the third of November 2014 to respond to this and work with us. Refusing to collaborate with us will be seen as an act of cowardice, and result in a declaration of victory (as given by this thread). TGI has not only initiated the war, but also declared a “draw” without our permission or knowledge. On both counts. To add further insult to injury, TGI is now threatening to group ban the whole of RAT from entering their base. Would a truly powerful group do this?
[References]: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=148817552 The above indicates the thread that TGI posted as a declaration of hostilities towards The Roblox Assault Team. There were no war terms present on this forum post.
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=148919494 This above indicated the thread in which TGI decided to restrict all raids from 8 AM EST to 5:30 PM EST mid-war, as well as dropping server size from 30 players to 22 players to match a fort that has an entirely different scale and gameplay. Let’s not forget that within said post, rodgerdodger says and I quote “Our policy on raiding has been fixed to match RAT as well -”. However this is clearly a flat out lie because the policy at Sierra states that between 11 PM EST AND 8 AM EST all raids are deemed invalid. This is in place so that no raids will occur at midnight and defenders won’t come and there will only be more complaining.
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=149009279 The above indicates the thread that TGI posted in attempt to make known our alleged use of “weapons that inflict double the damage on the opposing team”. There is discussion on this thread that disproves the accusations, as well as confirmation that the system involved in randomizing gun damage was removed.
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=149053943 The above indicates the thread that TGI posted to attempt to conclude the war as a “DRAW” for both sides. This includes information like alleged cheating, double damaging weapons, as well as a threat to global ban RAT from TGI’s fort. |
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| 02 Nov 2014 04:35 PM |
RAT won [2]
RIP vulnerite AKA keith | tons of deleted accounts | i do stuff |
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KryptedX
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| 02 Nov 2014 04:35 PM |
| how long did this take .-. |
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Kallistaa
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| 02 Nov 2014 04:36 PM |
| I bet Skyman helped writing this. ;; |
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Skyman772
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| 02 Nov 2014 04:37 PM |
support.
RAT basically defeated TGI |
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Kallistaa
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| 02 Nov 2014 04:39 PM |
tl;dr
""Oh my gosh guys look at the number below my username! It makes me so special to have such a large number! Respect me because look at my number! NUMBER!" -players who use post botting" -SSJ |
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| 02 Nov 2014 04:39 PM |
TGI sealed their fate in the war by themselves.
Good job, RAT. |
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| 02 Nov 2014 04:40 PM |
May the flame, unleash.
Purge, crush, kill!
Gg. |
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| 02 Nov 2014 04:41 PM |
if you are winning in the score and they want to end it, then you win
Emperor Arcarius of the Federation |
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| 02 Nov 2014 04:41 PM |
| *EDIT: We actually have 13 wins that are confirmed authentic; here is the thirteenth win! /MO9PGXx |
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| 02 Nov 2014 04:41 PM |
TGI's response to losing: "Aw RATs!" |
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| 02 Nov 2014 04:42 PM |
Rodger, take the loss and move on.
Don't do this crap.
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| 02 Nov 2014 04:42 PM |
| Can't disagree with this thread in anyway, good job RAT. Congrats. |
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