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Re: Alert Einstein was not a theist.

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AtheistWithAFedora is not online. AtheistWithAFedora
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02 Nov 2014 08:21 AM
I hear people say he's a theist all the time, but Einstein was blatant an atheist. People quote him saying things like "God does not play dice with the universe" and think that's proof. But Einstein was a pantheist, he used the word "god" to refer to nature. "God does not play dice" did not literally mean there's a being who rolls dice, but he was criticizing quantum mechanics because he believed the universe was deterministic and not probabilistic, and quantum mechanics suggests it's probabilistic.

People also use the quote "science without religion is lame, but religion without science is blind". People don't seem to get that Einstein's concept of religion was not Christianity, but simply an awe for nature. He blatantly said he is a nonbeliever (atheist), but a deeply religious nonbeliever. He equates his awe of nature to a religion in itself. So what he actually meant, in today's terms, is "science without an awe for nature is lame, but an awe for nature without science is blind."

Here's some quotes from Albert Einstein:

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious
convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I
do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied
this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me
which can be called religious then it is the unbounded
admiration for the structure of the world so far as our
science can reveal it"

"I am a deeply religious nonbeliever. This is a somewhat
new kind of religion.

I have never imputed to Nature a purpose or a goal, or
anything that could be understood as anthropomorphic.
What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we
can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill
a thinking person with a feeling of humility. This is a
genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with
mysticism.

The idea of a personal God is quite alien to me and seems
even naive."
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brett7743 is not online. brett7743
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02 Nov 2014 08:40 AM
*tips fedora*
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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02 Nov 2014 08:54 AM
Also a socialist...
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IridiumFlare is not online. IridiumFlare
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02 Nov 2014 09:06 AM
*tips fedora*
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EmperorAntoine is not online. EmperorAntoine
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02 Nov 2014 09:12 AM
He wasn't an Atheist
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EmperorAntoine is not online. EmperorAntoine
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02 Nov 2014 09:13 AM
"religion was not Christianity"

Duh. You realize he was a Jew right
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brett7743 is not online. brett7743
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02 Nov 2014 09:13 AM
"He wasn't an Atheist"

its a troll, just dont take the b8
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EmperorAntoine is not online. EmperorAntoine
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02 Nov 2014 09:17 AM
"He also called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said, "an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.""
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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02 Nov 2014 09:23 AM
Einstein did actually disproof believes. He could calculate what happened in the nano-seconds after the Big Bang, which actually disproof that everything was made in 7 days, from the Bible.
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PokemonLight is not online. PokemonLight
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02 Nov 2014 09:28 AM
Hebrew language isn't like the English language. "Day" could also mean years, months, or a very long time
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mayor22 is not online. mayor22
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02 Nov 2014 09:31 AM
*tips fedora*
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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02 Nov 2014 09:36 AM
It was obiviously days or else 1 week wouldn't have 7 days and 1 "Sunday".
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AtheistWithAFedora is not online. AtheistWithAFedora
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02 Nov 2014 09:40 AM
>"Also a socialist..."

Evidence? I'm not saying you're wrong, I've honestly never heard this claim before. I just would like you to give me a source to this.

>"He wasn't an Atheist"

I demonstrated it. You're just in denial.

>"Duh. You realize he was a Jew right"

He was a Jew by race, not by religion.

>""He also called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said, "an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."""

Actually read the original quote. It's obvious that Einstein defines "atheist" to mean "belief that there is no god" and "agnostic" to mean "uncertainty".

This definition of atheist he uses is completely different than the definition I'm using. His definition of agnostic falls under mine of an atheist. My definition comes from Oxford English Dictionary, that atheism is "lack of belief in a god".

This debate over definitions isn't new. Even Charles Darwin debated over the definitions between atheism and agnosticism in his time.

>"Einstein did actually disproof believes. He could calculate what happened in the nano-seconds after the Big Bang, which actually disproof that everything was made in 7 days, from the Bible."

Your first statement just is not true, Einstein had nothing to do with the Big Bang theory. That was discovered by a lot of people, mainly Georges Lemaître and Edwin Hubble.

Plus, not all Christians believe in a literally 7-day interpretation of the Bible.

>"Hebrew language isn't like the English language. "Day" could also mean years, months, or a very long time"

I'm not saying theists can't believe in science. I'm just saying Einstein wasn't one.

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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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02 Nov 2014 09:44 AM
AtheistWithAFedora, it seems like you don't know alot about Einstein's forumals.
He did calculate what happened in the first nano-seconds after the Big Bang, like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_relativity
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zadfad is not online. zadfad
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02 Nov 2014 09:44 AM
EInstien was a jewish scum. Shut up athiest
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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02 Nov 2014 09:45 AM
I find it unlogic anyway that god should have made light before the sun (source: Bible).
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AtheistWithAFedora is not online. AtheistWithAFedora
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02 Nov 2014 10:08 AM
>"AtheistWithAFedora, it seems like you don't know alot about Einstein's forumals.
He did calculate what happened in the first nano-seconds after the Big Bang, like:"

The Theory of Relativity is used in understanding the Big Bang, yes. But just because Einstein came up with the theory, doesn't mean he did the calculations.

Just because I built a car doesn't mean I was the one driving it last week.

>"I find it unlogic anyway that god should have made light before the sun (source: Bible)."

Well, maybe he made stray photons? xD
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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02 Nov 2014 10:11 AM
"The Theory of Relativity is used in understanding the Big Bang, yes. But just because Einstein came up with the theory, doesn't mean he did the calculations."

Explain me how he came up with this therory. Obiviously with calculations.
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DesiredShark is not online. DesiredShark
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02 Nov 2014 10:16 AM
"Alert Einstein"

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AtheistWithAFedora is not online. AtheistWithAFedora
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02 Nov 2014 10:20 AM
>"Explain me how he came up with this therory. Obiviously with calculations."

Not all calculations are the same. For example, I could calculate that the force on gravity on earth is 9.78 m/s². But that doesn't mean I'm responsible for calculating the age of the universe.

Darwin first coherently proposed the theory of evolution, but that doesn't mean Darwin is responsible for the discovery of DNA.

Just because something is related doesn't mean it's the same.
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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02 Nov 2014 10:25 AM
You can't make up formulars without any calculation.
And the therory plays directly a big role about what happened in the first nano-seconds after the Big Bang.

You can't make a movie with the background actors only, it needs the main character.
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DesiredShark is not online. DesiredShark
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02 Nov 2014 10:28 AM
"Evil is only the absence of good"
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AtheistWithAFedora is not online. AtheistWithAFedora
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02 Nov 2014 10:42 AM
>"And the therory plays directly a big role about what happened in the first nano-seconds after the Big Bang."

Yes, but he didn't do the calculations.
How is this so hard to understand?

Just because he developed the theory of relativity doesn't mean every application of it was directly done by him. That is insane stupidity and I don't know why you keep on saying it.


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Stonixx is not online. Stonixx
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02 Nov 2014 11:21 AM
He was a pantheist...

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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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02 Nov 2014 11:42 AM
He was a radical socialist, and hung out with others of his type. All over the web, if you're not too lazy to look it up.
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