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Re: Regarding the concerns between UAF and TRA as of late

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KingconXII is not online. KingconXII
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28 Oct 2014 03:57 PM
Dear TRA, UAF and users of the C&G forum,

As of late, in response to a forum whereby False accused TRA of a lack of communication on our part (referring to http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=148700933), TRA and UAF have had diplomatic conflicts publicized on this forum and have had skirmishes at each other's forts.

TRA have been accused of not informing the UAF High Command, and in turn, I have been accused of not properly speaking with any of their high-ranking members. The quote, "or you may contact one of the Generals as a medium" is from False's original thread, and I did appropriately speak to Lucara (guess what, he's a General in UAF, what surprise!) on the 23rd October, last Thursday.

With the war having been declared on the 25th, two days before the following chat logs, beforehand I had informed Lucara of what TRA had planned across the next few weeks,

[23/10/2014 19:24:34] KingconXII: Well we are currently occupied with other projects right now
[23/10/2014 19:25:42] Lucara: Projects that would interfere with a war?
[23/10/2014 19:25:48] KingconXII: Mhm

On the 25th itself, with UAF having declared war (link: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=148568856) on TRA, I further stated to Lucara,

[25/10/2014 18:29:50] KingconXII: I told you we are getting a new base
[25/10/2014 18:30:07] KingconXII: So I am sorry you will have to deal with that fact Kaeru is being removed
[25/10/2014 18:30:18] KingconXII: As well as that, we are having a halloween event making the base un raidable
[25/10/2014 18:31:30] Lucara: Well, they are >provisional< war terms
[25/10/2014 18:31:34] Lucara: It's open for discussion
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[25/10/2014 18:34:42] Lucara: Dude, we can just discuss war terms and then have a war once Halloween is over
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[25/10/2014 18:45:14] KingconXII: Does False have skype?
[25/10/2014 18:45:22] Lucara: No, but I can talk to him on xfire
[25/10/2014 18:45:36] KingconXII: You better tell him TRAs base will become unraidable.
[25/10/2014 18:45:53] KingconXII: As well as our planned base change which btw he can not use as a war term to hault
[25/10/2014 18:46:11] KingconXII: Kaeru will not be the base used during war just to inform you.
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[27/10/2014 10:59:29] Lucara: Now that we can't raid, due to the halloween update

Therefore, I denounce this apparent 'fact' that it is our fault for communication. Lucara came to me, I appropriately informed Lucara regarding these issues, and Lucara stated that he would then inform False about all this on the 25th, with Lucara becoming the MEDIUM as a General. If there was a problem of communication in the UAF High Command, it is not of my concern however blaming our High Command for it will not do.

Speak to your own High Command before you start making endless threads here and there about being misinformed when you stated how your Generals are there to be mediums of communication between the clan leaders.

You can speak to me via skype (@ connor.neale011 ) if you really do wish to speak with me on a personal level, as I do not feel your High Command can appropriately address my information sent to them, onto you. However, if you wish to remain detached from 'my address book', then that is fine, just end the pointless ramblings some would call denouncement.

- Commander Kingcon
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nikolai001 is not online. nikolai001
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28 Oct 2014 03:58 PM
1st
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Avack98 is not online. Avack98
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28 Oct 2014 04:00 PM
boom
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Acestrum is not online. Acestrum
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28 Oct 2014 04:05 PM
I am Head of War, not Lucara. I did try to skype you to no reply avail. Don't make this harder for yourself, King.

[SiC] Acestrum
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Ghost0ps is not online. Ghost0ps
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28 Oct 2014 04:07 PM
This.
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obeddivinex is not online. obeddivinex
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28 Oct 2014 04:10 PM
.... TRA stop pulling some dumb shiz... UAF has a Halloween event and we allow raiders.. Why not you?
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DrDrRoblox is not online. DrDrRoblox
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28 Oct 2014 04:13 PM
Ace, your own leader stated how Generals could be used as a medium.

Furthermore, Lucara has shown initiative to speak with King for False until now (hopefully there can be greater and more direct forms of communication), unlike yourself it seems, despite the roles.

Lucara is also a respectable and influential General, well known in UAF's external affairs, and I don't feel he has to stay out of any discussion when regarding the apparent conflicts.
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LegoExo is not online. LegoExo
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28 Oct 2014 04:13 PM
Just pointing out the fact that you put chat breaks in that log, King. Partial logs are a very poor way to counter an accusation.
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obeddivinex is not online. obeddivinex
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28 Oct 2014 04:13 PM
Why PM a "MEDIUM" Not "THE HEAD OF WAR"
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killer9094 is not online. killer9094
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28 Oct 2014 04:15 PM
@Acestrum
are you dumb sir.
"or you may contact one of the Generals as a medium" - false to king con.
know also that king con is in the uk
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KingWilling is not online. KingWilling
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28 Oct 2014 04:15 PM

"10-28-2014 09:44 AM
KingconXII, I want you to read this quote.

"Falsewarrior000

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10-26-2014 12:17 PM
Again, you do understand that Lucara's authority doesn't override my own, right?"

From page 5 of the Declaration of War. http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=148568856&PageIndex=5 . Unless you are a semi-literate ape, this means "you talk to me about these issues, not Lucara". Don't use your inability to read or understand as an excuse for this update, Kingcon.

Secondly, Lucara, KingWilling, and Acestrum were instructed to discuss war terms with you. They were not instructed (and they have since told me they've adhered to this policy) to negotiate any ceasefire with TRA, especially one you decided to induct for an ahead-of-schedule event to prevent a war. After this thread, I'm certain that you would go through the effort of lying and pushing an event ahead-of-schedule in an attempt to spare TRA from this war. http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=148580392"
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LegoExo is not online. LegoExo
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28 Oct 2014 04:15 PM
If only we could all get some universal form of real-time communication (so besides PMs) that we could/would all use. I hate Skype, it's mean to me. And that makes me hate it more. >:/
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groovyclone is not online. groovyclone
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28 Oct 2014 04:16 PM
Donte worry king... ur the first leader of tra that likes men
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lillylip is not online. lillylip
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28 Oct 2014 04:17 PM
Here comes the roller coaster.
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DrDrRoblox is not online. DrDrRoblox
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28 Oct 2014 04:17 PM
Obed, as apparently mediums are a fine consideration to speak to for now.

Also, realistically, skype and other forms of communication like that, which are off the site, are preferably used for this kind of communication.

Lucara is also, seemingly, a far easier person to communicate with on King's end apparently.

King has listed his forms of communication outside of roblox's messaging system, and they are clearly visible on his blurb.

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bob9999 is not online. bob9999
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28 Oct 2014 04:17 PM
@KingWilling the problem with that is it directly contradicts his previous statement that General are to be used as mediums. We don't care about the war so if you want the war you can come talk to King directly or just shove off.
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LegoExo is not online. LegoExo
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28 Oct 2014 04:18 PM
Additionally pointing out the fact that if you and your Generals aren't on the same page, there's an issue. Especially if they are intended to be involved in inter-clan communications of any matter, at any step of the way.
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lillylip is not online. lillylip
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28 Oct 2014 04:19 PM
@Lego,

If you really wish to find some communication, drag them onto UAF's or TRA's TS3.

(I'd suggest UAF's as, not many people come onto it, so they won't be bothered)
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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28 Oct 2014 04:20 PM
Why not negotiate for a war with UAF to take place after Halloween? Why discourage UAF members from invading by loop killing all raiders, especially when they admit to their presence being unofficial?
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DrDrRoblox is not online. DrDrRoblox
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28 Oct 2014 04:20 PM
If Lucara was instructed not to agree to a ceasefire, then why did he agree to such a change in a war?

As well, if one read, the war would have been starting on Tuesday anyway according to the thread referring to the declaration of the war. I do not see then how any of the wins would have counted at the time whether ceasefire or not.

If one has to criticise people of reading, then I will criticise those of incompetence and mere lack of communication among their own peers.
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LegoExo is not online. LegoExo
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28 Oct 2014 04:20 PM
@KingWilling How can a pre-planned event be created to avoid a war when that war isn't being discussed yet at the time of the event's planning?
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groovyclone is not online. groovyclone
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28 Oct 2014 04:20 PM
So that makes... 1 carry the 9 to 10, 5-10 tra uaf wars
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KingWilling is not online. KingWilling
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28 Oct 2014 04:21 PM
@KingWilling the problem with that is it directly contradicts his previous statement that General are to be used as mediums. We don't care about the war so if you want the war you can come talk to King directly or just shove off.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see him saying that anywhere in the thread.

The closest thing is this: "I regret to inform you that Lucara cannot override my authority on this matter. You may approach KingWilling, Lucara, or Acestrum to begin discussing war terms within the next three days."

"to begin discussing war terms within the next three days."
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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28 Oct 2014 04:21 PM
OMG KING NO THE DDOSERS WILL GET YOU MAN

The Witch King of C&G himself has graced you with his presence.
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DrDrRoblox is not online. DrDrRoblox
Joined: 01 May 2011
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28 Oct 2014 04:24 PM
Apparently the script at Kaeru was initially, I know of no real details here for I was doing revision for mocks at the time, meant to recolour the raiders into zombie-like colours in order to give this spooky and menacing appearance to the usual ROBLOX avatar of users within games. However, this script was apparently faulty to the extent of it randomly killing people.

Yesterday morning King stated how he was going to make such a script, yet by the time I had finished my revision for the day, thus a good 5 or so hours apart, it had broken and King had removed it before I had even been informed of it breaking. Thus, at the time of the thread False made, and even now, there is no script for this system.

It was a clear error on the coding part for the fort, however had soon been rectified from what I know.
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