Seany112
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| 24 Oct 2014 04:52 PM |
We all have ideas that we think can benefit RSF. Some of them concern just small parts of the clan, some affect it as a whole.
I am constantly being buffeted with ideas for RSF's future - from Recruit's to General's. A lot of these ideas with some development, planning and resources put into it, would greatly improve RSF and the satisfaction of those in it.
It's a well known fact that the High Command are constantly brainstorming new ideas and reforms for RSF. It's an even wider known fact that these decisions can, sometimes, not be that well received.
Anyway I was using my total tekkers at a Meadows training a few minutes ago (It's worth noting that this Sunday - 26th of October is No Swords Sunday) when someone - whose name I honestly can't remember said something along the lines of "RSF's promotion system needs to be reformed,"
I didn't really think too much about it and continued skilling people left right and centre until I suddenly had a thought. All these people were asking for these reforms and changes, but they never get put into action because of lack of planning.
So now I put it to you, the members of RSF, to decide on something you would like to see change in RSF, and post below how it can be done. This should be DETAILED - around 100 words - it should cover ALL the points of your idea but shouldn't be idiotic - eg 'shutdown RSF111!1!'.
There is NO rank requirement for this, ALL of your ideas and reforms will be considered. Please write with the best grammar you can as this will earn you brownie points! If we see an idea that we like, then we will find ways to implement it into RSF.
Good luck, and thanks for your input.
RSF Field Marshal
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jetfall23
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iRejected
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Statfire
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| 24 Oct 2014 05:06 PM |
'whose name I honestly can't remember said something along the lines of "RSF's promotion system needs to be reformed'
[16:07] [ar-es-ef] statfire: shows how corrupt our promotion system is [16:08] [RSF] Grandpa: check the audit logs [16:08] [ar-es-ef] statfire: just did
come on seany |
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kevinlyp
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| 24 Oct 2014 05:07 PM |
| Sean, this is EXACTLY what I said. I've been getting late promotions, and it's annoying for me. I said this today. |
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ywis
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| 24 Oct 2014 05:09 PM |
Promotion system?
Use a point data base like WIJ's ecept the get a point for being in the official raid, defence, being mvp of a training round. This way it's more fair. |
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Statfire
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| 24 Oct 2014 05:10 PM |
@ywis
we tried that it didnt go so well |
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| 24 Oct 2014 05:19 PM |
| I havent had a promo for years, sooo corrupt |
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ywis
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| 25 Oct 2014 04:03 AM |
| Do you know what were the initial flaws of the point system? |
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| 25 Oct 2014 04:08 AM |
A rule that you don't get declined for a test if you say a clan (that isn't involved with RSF in any way) sucks.
Make seany 2ic since he seems to be the only FM doing good things nowadays.
Make me general for awesome swag O__e |
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| 25 Oct 2014 04:09 AM |
Illusion of making progress is motivating do something with this info |
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ywis
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| 25 Oct 2014 04:11 AM |
Hey Gig, RSF is a navy right?
Maybe you could have the inital exp system implemented in the fort, once you rank up, you get the navy ranks?
That's agreat motivation |
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| 25 Oct 2014 04:12 AM |
| We moved back to land ywis |
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ywis
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| 25 Oct 2014 04:14 AM |
| Oh yeah, mabe you can have normal military ranks and a division for navy? That would change the activity and promotion system a lot. |
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| 25 Oct 2014 05:07 AM |
I honestly believe the HR (officer) ranks should begin at Lieutenant Then have Warrant Officer as officer in training, or this hr probation rank.
ranklist: Recruit Private Private First Class Corporal Sergeant Warrant Officer Chief Warrant Officer - formerly major
[hr ranks] Lieutenant - new rank Captain - formerly Colonel Colonel - formerly Brigadier Brigadier General - formerly LTG Lieutenant General - formerly General General - formerly Field Marshal Leader |
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Jradi
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| 25 Oct 2014 05:11 AM |
No! WIJ's Data Place won't be strong enough for RSF.
You cannot change a bad Superclan into a fun, active, skilled Superclan with a lot of power.
- The Steel King |
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VenomlV
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| 25 Oct 2014 08:28 AM |
| I agree with Yw, a point system such as ZAP or cP should be implemented into RSF. |
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| 25 Oct 2014 08:33 AM |
First of all, Im happy with the promotion system as is from Recruit-Major, it took me a few weeks to get major since I joined and I think thats an appropriate amount of that if should take for the average rsf member to get to major. (Dont know if that made sense but try your best)
But, Major-Colonel, I would like to see some kind of mentor system, like maybe every time a major is to host, they have a specific HR to go to if they would like to host. That high rank would supervise the training, give tips and feedback, and once that HR thinks the Major is ready, the major will be interviewed/tested to be a major.
And as for the test, it obviously should not be easy, and it should have consequences to failing, such as:
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After a certain number of fails, the major will be assigned a new HR mentor.
If the Major fails repeatedly after being assigned to another HR, they will be demoted to Captain and have to rank back up to Major before they can begin Mentor ship again.
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I know this seems like a load of bull crap to some people, but that is just what I believe. Please don't flame me on this post, thank you. |
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| 25 Oct 2014 09:54 AM |
| I think we need to reform the HR's because most of them think I made it now lets not do anything. Not all HR's are like this but some are inactive daily and no one does anything about it. Anywat the point is there are a bunch of active Majors waiting to get HR but since there is so many HR's you need to scrape away the bad ones so that new ones can come in. Not everyone is the same but I am just saying. Just because of Favoritism don't let that stop people from voting them off. |
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| 25 Oct 2014 10:13 AM |
First of all, RSF uses swords way too often during trainings. We need to teach our members how to gunfight. What if we go to war with a gun clan? Our sword skills aren't going to help us. Our base even has guns, why not train with them? I think we should add the Arvore guns to a training place.
Another thing, many of the events people host throughout trainings are pointless. "Colours," for example. If the trainer says "Green." you go to green. Last person there is respawned. But, if the trainer say "Green" (without a period), you do not go to green or else you will be respawned. Does this mean if a highrank tells a Recruit to do something during a raid, but does not use a period, the Recruit should just ignore him?
-Major Char |
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ywis
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| 25 Oct 2014 10:14 AM |
| I agree, you should remove useless events, but not Colors. Make Colors more extreme, so that they would learn how to listen to orders. |
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Vatuu
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| 25 Oct 2014 10:17 AM |
Hi! I'd like to introduce myself as zuesstormgod88, former Lieutenant General in RSF. I've been in RSF for a solid year, and in and out for 2 years. I'm currently a Corporal, and I'm on the Gun Fighting Team in our Sharks division.
I don't think it's any secret to veterans or members who have been in RSF for a fair amount of time that the group itself has degraded. What do I mean degraded? By degraded, I mean that the group has gone downhill in a negative way over time. It is my own opinion that a majority of the members are extremely immature, unskilled in most types of combat, ESPECIALLY in gunfighting. The community has seemed to be divided into divisions, if you will. A majority of immature members will "befriend" other members of that type, to be on the same intellectual level. As I see it, members who are "mature", and typically type with grammar, etc. will befriend each other. Why is this not good? It's because this causes division of members into giant social circles. We are not RAT, we are not a mass of social circles. I remember being friends with all the other members, playing by the motto, "We are RSF, we are family" this seems to be in the past now.
To elaborate on the issue of division of members, I see a division between the High ranks, and the Low ranks. The Colonels, no offense, are mostly formed of idiots without proper leadership. Low Ranks look up to High Ranks, believe it or not. With a fair amount of the High Ranks being terrible examples of how to act, Low Ranks end up acting like fools and the cycle continues. I see that cycle of this has occurred, by observing a fair amount of Majors. I've seen an extremely high amount of Majors who fool around like barbarians while ON DUTY. Off duty is home free for everyone, and when you're off duty feel free to do what you want. But when you act like you were raised in a third world country on duty, there are major consequences that have been going unpunished.
To elaborate on the issues of Majors, which is what I mainly wanted to talk about on this thread. Most of the Majors are absolute morons who act like they're on drugs and type like they're texting. I believe this is caused by the lack of High Ranks who are good role models of how to act. If a generation of people like this start to rise through the ranks, the cycle will continue to be harder and harder to break until the entire group has fallen. The problem was already bad enough, and then elections were brought back. If there was one thing that could aid the destruction of the group, it was this. I was in the elections, and I managed to win them. How? Because it is mostly a popularity contest. A fair amount of majors who are absolute morons have made it onto the ballot. Example? The rose girl rage quit RSF as a major less than two months ago and flamed RSF non stop, and even stalked members to defend the group RSF was raiding. And guess what? She made it onto the ballot. This is an issue.
Another issue is the fact that ranks are so ridiculously easy to climb that people can get Major in a week. This is a MAJOR issue. If you speed through the ranks, you don't really learn about the group itself. This means that if they get High Rank, they don't know the community well, don't know the roots of the group, and have a small amount of personal experience in the group. The promotion MUST be changed to be longer, because it will slow down and filter out a large majority of people who are incompetent. How? When you can speed through the ranks easily, it takes no initiative. By making a longer promotion system, which takes determination and loyalty, people who don't really care about the group and more about their rank are discouraged from trying. This also lets people adjust and grow in the community, where they will meet more people, learn more things, and hopefully grow in knowledge of RSF.
Another thing that I see to be a major issue is trainings. I am very enraged by certain types of trainings. Why? Allow me to use all caps to express how I feel about this. OUR GROUP IS REALLY RIDICULOUSLY UNSKILLED AND WE COULDN'T WIN A WAR IF WE WANTED TO! YET WE SIT AROUND PLAYING IDIOTIC GAMES LIKE SHARKS AND MINNOWS, THAT STUPID COLOR GAME, AND EVERYTHING OF THE SORT! ALSO STICKING TO SWORDS IN TRAININGS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GUNFIGHT IS SCREWING YOU OVER IN THE LONG RUN! IF WE GO TO WAR WITH A GUN CLAN, WHAT WILL YOUR SWORD FIGHTING SKILLS GET US? IT WILL GET US ON A GROUPS DEFEATED LIST. I can not stress how important it is that gun fighting be mandatory in training whether people like it or not. Idiotic events like what I listed should be kept for off duty events.
I have much more to rant on, but I am too tired and on my iPad. Please reply with any comments, corrections, opinions, thoughts, etc. thank you for reading, if you did.
tl;dr: RSF issues
copy pasted from my thread |
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| 25 Oct 2014 11:29 AM |
@ywis You brought me on an idea Thanks
@vatuu We shall read it shortly and see if these ideas are good. Thank you! |
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