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Re: Lobbying is immoral

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DuckD0nald is not online. DuckD0nald
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21 Oct 2014 04:31 PM
It makes democracy turn into plutocracy.
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JamesGalt is not online. JamesGalt
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21 Oct 2014 04:33 PM
Now ask yourself, what is more important? Democracy itself, or the rule of law?
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DuckD0nald is not online. DuckD0nald
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21 Oct 2014 04:35 PM
Democracy. It is more important that all the citizens get to decide how they want to be ruled, than only a select percentage who make the decisions for all of the citizens.
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bobos22 is not online. bobos22
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21 Oct 2014 04:39 PM
Democracy is plutocracy except during elections
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DuckD0nald is not online. DuckD0nald
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21 Oct 2014 04:41 PM
And lobbying doesn't exactly help resolve the issue.
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JamesGalt is not online. JamesGalt
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21 Oct 2014 04:44 PM
...So It's ok for 51% of the population to vote away the other 49%
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DuckD0nald is not online. DuckD0nald
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21 Oct 2014 04:46 PM
More like 95% voting over the 5%
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JamesGalt is not online. JamesGalt
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21 Oct 2014 04:47 PM
You're evading the question.
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DuckD0nald is not online. DuckD0nald
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21 Oct 2014 04:50 PM
That is not lobbying. Lobbying is when the ~5% makes decisions for the ~95% by saying that "if you don't do this we will not give you financial support."
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bobos22 is not online. bobos22
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21 Oct 2014 05:10 PM
Lobbying should be illegalised
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DuckD0nald is not online. DuckD0nald
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21 Oct 2014 05:15 PM
A summary of lobbying: "We have money, therefore we are allowed to decide laws which are going to be made. You do not, so you do not get to decide."
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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21 Oct 2014 08:13 PM
Isn't that called corruption?
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0Z0NE is not online. 0Z0NE
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21 Oct 2014 11:21 PM
No, it's called "OP is biased".

Get over it, it's a capitalist system.

Democracy is mob rule, and mob rule is senseless.
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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22 Oct 2014 05:45 AM
ozone...are u serious...disgusting

"Why is it . . . that in this world there are men [and women] whose hearts have been so numbed, whose sentiments of honor and delicacy have been so deadened, that one sees them pleased and amused by what degrades and soils them?" - Marquis de Sade
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breuning is not online. breuning
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22 Oct 2014 05:45 AM
pakes are you new?
because what you stated is pretty obvious.
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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22 Oct 2014 05:50 AM
lolno ive been here since wwc, just took a break

"Why is it . . . that in this world there are men [and women] whose hearts have been so numbed, whose sentiments of honor and delicacy have been so deadened, that one sees them pleased and amused by what degrades and soils them?" - Marquis de Sade
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breuning is not online. breuning
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22 Oct 2014 05:51 AM
good cause 0z0ne is like the godfather of intolerance in gc, he keeps on hating on sinii for being trans
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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22 Oct 2014 06:16 AM
yeah its awful he probably gets bullied irl

"Why is it . . . that in this world there are men [and women] whose hearts have been so numbed, whose sentiments of honor and delicacy have been so deadened, that one sees them pleased and amused by what degrades and soils them?" - Marquis de Sade
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0Z0NE is not online. 0Z0NE
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22 Oct 2014 08:32 AM
No, I hate Sinii for being Sinii.

Is that such an alien concept to you?

And no, I'm quite fine.
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DuckD0nald is not online. DuckD0nald
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22 Oct 2014 10:34 AM
It's better for companies to decide how we are ruled rather than the "mobs" deciding who rules them, is it? Because I'd rather not to be forced to adhere to a law which some fat cats decided to lobby for.

It's corruption. It's not capitalism. Even capitalism has its limits.
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