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Re: Ability to disable MenuGUI.

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Barcado is not online. Barcado
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16 Oct 2014 10:02 PM
I've noticed that ROBLOX wants it's builders to be more "independent" from basic building tools; to have more control.

I don't like how we can't DISABLE ALL ROBLOX DEFAULTS. Starting with MenuGUI.

-I don't want YouTube to be spammed with videos of my game, considering that most are low-quality and made by nine-year olds.

-I don't want people to be able to reset.

-I don't want people to use MouseLockSwitch.
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Barcado is not online. Barcado
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16 Oct 2014 10:06 PM
Oh, and about the MouseLockSwitch: Allow builders to destroy it entirely, since settings save through games.
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Shadoward12 is not online. Shadoward12
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16 Oct 2014 11:30 PM
I agree with everything you just said.

Resetting breaks complex mechanics such as custom characters or respawns.

And MouseLockSwitch breaks anything meant to keep a player pointed in one direction.
Although, at least MouseLockSwitch can be countered through the AutoRotate property of the Humanoid in a player's character.

On top of this, if you want to make custom GUI's, you have to deal with the menu button being in the way.
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crowfighter is not online. crowfighter
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16 Oct 2014 11:46 PM
No support.
From the 4 points, they are single-person rants.
"I don't"
If you want this removed/disabled, then please show me that a majority of the community wants them disabled/removed.

"I don't like how we can't DISABLE ALL ROBLOX DEFAULTS. Starting with MenuGUI."
They are defaults for a reason.

"I don't want YouTube to be spammed with videos of my game, considering that most are low-quality and made by nine-year olds."
That is YOUR problem, not Roblox's. You can't stop people from making videos of your game unless you make the place inactive.

"I don't want people to be able to reset."
So take an example. You are stuck. There is no reset GUI. What are you going to do? Leave the game.

"I don't want people to use MouseLockSwitch."
They were created to make movement easier, and it is NOT a hack/cheap move/exploit.

These are personal rants. No support.
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Shadoward12 is not online. Shadoward12
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17 Oct 2014 12:19 AM
Roblox wants to put the power into the hands of the developers. The default menus take away from this goal.

Suppose the game put you in a stuck position for the sake of the game.
You shouldn't be able to reset and get out of it.

MouseLock bypasses anything meant to keep the player facing a certain direction.
AutoRotate will block it from working, but that also blocks the player from turning, at all.

They aren't personal problems, they are just holding back development in some areas of games.
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Naruto9200 is not online. Naruto9200
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17 Oct 2014 02:36 AM
No support.

"-I don't want YouTube to be spammed with videos of my game, considering that most are low-quality and made by nine-year olds."

1)We can just press F8
2)Why not?It's free advertising.

"-I don't want people to use MouseLockSwitch."

1)It doesn't even affect gameplay.

"-I don't want people to be able to reset."

1)Why not?

From what you suggested,it seems like you want to make a horrible game.
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Naruto9200 is not online. Naruto9200
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17 Oct 2014 02:37 AM
"MouseLock bypasses anything meant to keep the player facing a certain direction.
AutoRotate will block it from working, but that also blocks the player from turning, at all."

And that's why you actually learn to script.
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Naruto9200 is not online. Naruto9200
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17 Oct 2014 02:38 AM
"Suppose the game put you in a stuck position for the sake of the game.
You shouldn't be able to reset and get out of it."

That's a horrible idea for a game.
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Shadoward12 is not online. Shadoward12
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17 Oct 2014 03:07 AM
MouseLock does affect gameplay.
If you are meant to face a certain way, such as while using a certain weapon, MouseLock will force you to turn, anyway.
I'm not saying people shouldn't have to learn to script, but developers shouldn't have to script their way around something like MouseLock.
In this case, if you wanted to disable MouseLock, you would have to disable AutoRotate, then manually remake the other parts of character movement that are also disabled, or else you would strafe uncontrollably.

And resetting can get a player out of a situation that they otherwise shouldn't be able to get out of.
There have already been examples of situations where players shouldn't be allowed to reset, but here's one, anyway;

If a game traps you in a room and you have to solve a puzzle to escape, you shouldn't be able to reset and get out of it. If there is a situation where you need to respawn your character, it should be up to the developer to give you that power and decide where/when you can use it.
And even if you think that's a horrible idea for a game, that's your opinion, it is still an option for developers to make, so they should have all the power to do so.
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jasondee1 is not online. jasondee1
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17 Oct 2014 04:12 AM
@Shadoward

1. Why would you want to disable mouselock? There is no definite reason for it. Mouselock is the same exact thing as zooming in to First Person mode and rotating your character except your zoomed out. It has no affect oon gameplay. It's as stupid as saying "First Person only mode affects gameplay!!!1" No, it doesn't. All it does is rotate your character. You could do that even by holding your right mouse button and moving around


2. How exactly would "resetting" affect you being stuck in a position or stuck in a stage? Wouldn't it just bring you back to the beginning? You could easily bypass this by simply setting checkpoints to spawn back in. You could even create a pseudo character to bypass this.
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NoobsAreTheWorld is not online. NoobsAreTheWorld
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17 Oct 2014 05:47 AM
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There not locked.. There in PlayerGUI.
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Barcado is not online. Barcado
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17 Oct 2014 04:16 PM
Why the hell are you defending Mouselockswitch? If i don't want it, why should it be in my game?

If I don't want people spamming YouTube low quality footage of my game, then why should I just sit there and let it happen? Horrendous.

And just because something is scriptable doesn't make it not complicated, and there is no freaking point to it when one like of code could stop it all.
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Kitteh6660 is not online. Kitteh6660
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17 Oct 2014 04:30 PM
No support with disabling MenuGUI.

Seriously, reset is here for a reason. Simply use a script or adapt.
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ArcticSorcery is not online. ArcticSorcery
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17 Oct 2014 04:37 PM
MenuGUI adds things that are necessary for all[most all] games.

No.
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Barcado is not online. Barcado
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17 Oct 2014 05:22 PM
Like what? How is resetting (a game breaker at some points) necessary? How is Mouselockswitch (a game "cheater" plus I don't want people to be able to use it in general) necessary either? You have no reason to defend them!

And what do you mean "reset" is there for a reason? The is legitimately no reason for it other than if you're stuck in a pit or something in the game (which in most cases is the player's fault), in which case the developer should be able to handle it on their own without that stupid gui.

Don't use that whole "FPS" crap on me, because ctrl + alt + delete is there for a freaking reason. Plus, once again, the developer can handle that stuff,
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ArcticSorcery is not online. ArcticSorcery
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17 Oct 2014 09:11 PM
Quality slider.

Quit button.
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Barcado is not online. Barcado
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18 Oct 2014 09:08 AM
You can click the big red x at the right hand corner of your screen (once again, don't give me the fps crap, I already said ctrl + alt + delete)

No one cares about how good it looks, I don't want it entirely
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Spongocardo is not online. Spongocardo
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18 Oct 2014 09:13 AM
@Barcado Did you forgot about full-screen?

I wouldn't want the menu GUI to be fully removed, but I'd like to be able to move it and modify what ROBLOX settings effect my game. (with some settings being unable to be changed. E.G: Full-screen mode)

Here's my siggy... Done.
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Spongocardo is not online. Spongocardo
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18 Oct 2014 09:14 AM
*forget

Those typos, always happens.

Here's my siggy... Done.
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Barcado is not online. Barcado
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18 Oct 2014 09:15 AM
Some builders only want their games to look a certain way (I'm not actually one of them, but) they should have the ability to automatically set the graphics settings to optimize their game's aesthetic. And like I said, I purely don't want it there.
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Barcado is not online. Barcado
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18 Oct 2014 09:20 AM
I don't want it to be fully removed! I want to be able to disable it!

If you got INTO full screen, just press the button you used to get out of it. And it you're too stupid for that, then use ctrl + alt + delete.
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MrPhelps is not online. MrPhelps
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18 Oct 2014 09:53 AM
Taking away the menu isn't going to stop people from recording. You can hit f12 or whatever it is.

I'm pretty sure you can stop reseting from working. I've played games where I can't reset.






~OT Arkham Knight~
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IronForumer is not online. IronForumer
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18 Oct 2014 10:11 AM
>Quality slider
If you care that much about graphics, go outside and look at some realistic graphics.

>Exit button
Hit that big red "X" button on the top right.

This idea is good, even though I don't develop, I wouldn't want a player to reset or mouse lock to get out of a puzzle.
Also, you can hit F11 to go fullscreen.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) does not approve of idiots.
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Barcado is not online. Barcado
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18 Oct 2014 10:17 AM
Iron gets it!

I don't mind the recording as much as the other things, though.
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