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Re: [census] rate the leaders of the following groups:

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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
Joined: 01 Jan 2011
Total Posts: 23607
16 Oct 2014 05:21 PM
*solely based on their leadership skills*

NFC -

UAF -

UCR -

VOID -

RAA -

SC -

JC -

TGI -

FC -

HAU -

RSF -

(don't have to rate them all)


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Vaktior is not online. Vaktior
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16 Oct 2014 05:23 PM
NFC - 9/10

VOID - 10/10

RAA - 10/10

SC - 1/10

JC - 1/10

TGI - 8/10
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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16 Oct 2014 05:24 PM
what's your opinion on their leaders?
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Rainway is not online. Rainway
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16 Oct 2014 05:29 PM
NFC - Belmont cares for NFC, and is respectful. I suppose he takes after Fireant5. I'd give him a 8/10.

UAF - Haven't seen much of Falsewarrior other then the few times he has posted on C&G. However, he is moderately respectful towards opponents. I'd give him a 7/10

UCR - Growncool hasn't done much with UCR since he has owned it. 5/10

VOID - Isolaytor would make a great leader, if he could lose his ego. Overall though, 8/10

RAA - Implying Sasook still owns it, he is very disrespectful towards everyone. Even his own clan members. 5/10

SC - Rivilize is probably one of the best on here, that's just my opinion. 9/10

JC - Atomic can't take a loss. He is still decent though. 6/10

TGI - Haven't seen much of Rodger so I can't really say. Seems cool though

FC - jjjakey is chill and likes to make FC enjoyable. 9/10

HAU - 10/10 obv :3

RSF - Fruit is really inactive, but during his prime days he was great. 8/10
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Raethyr is not online. Raethyr
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16 Oct 2014 05:32 PM
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coolguy950 is not online. coolguy950
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16 Oct 2014 05:49 PM
NFC - As opposed to almost every heir in the history of NFC, Belmont's transition to power was a smooth sailing. He is a responsible leader that has established himself within NFC, and the rest of the clan community. 8/10.

VOID - ISO, as driven and committed as he is, has modeled his group to revolve around C&G. His leadership, much like the performance of his group, is fickle, inconsistent and insecure. 3/10.

RAA - see VOID. 6/10. (leader relies less on hype and is self-sufficient when it comes to producing technology).

TGI - Don't know much about his involvement in TGI, but if the survey includes past performance as leader, than 5/10.

RSF - While intelligent, FB fails to acknowledge the many reformations his group is in need of. Given that he is largely inactive within RSF, the majority of day-to-day power is held by his incompetent high ranks which are there as the result of a poor promotion systems in RSF. 5/10.

SC - Leader has maintained the group proficiently following the resignation of Pragmatic. Steered SC away from relying on the forums and towards more sustainable resources. 8.5/10.
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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16 Oct 2014 06:02 PM
mmm
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Raethyr is not online. Raethyr
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16 Oct 2014 06:02 PM
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Zeriten is not online. Zeriten
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16 Oct 2014 06:05 PM
FC was fun. I liked FC.
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KiIIah is not online. KiIIah
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16 Oct 2014 06:10 PM
NFC - 8/10

UAF - 7/10

UCR -5/10

VOID -4/10

RAA -7/10

SC -7/10

JC -5/10

TGI -8/10

FC -6/10

HAU -1/10

RSF -?

Sell your soul to your local C&Ger, Killah!
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coolguy950 is not online. coolguy950
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16 Oct 2014 06:12 PM
You could make an argument against my rating if you wish, just don't dismiss it as something 'stupid' because you think otherwise.
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Raethyr is not online. Raethyr
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16 Oct 2014 06:15 PM
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coolguy950 is not online. coolguy950
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16 Oct 2014 06:15 PM
Oh, is that so? Go right ahead and tell me why.
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Raethyr is not online. Raethyr
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16 Oct 2014 06:18 PM
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coolguy950 is not online. coolguy950
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16 Oct 2014 06:29 PM
On VOID: Since VOID took presence on C&G, nearly 2 years ago, it has repeatedly launched marketing campaigns via forums to recruit new members, raise awareness and increase the amount of visits its in-game places receive. If you reject this statement, simply search 'VOID' in forums and you will see numerous instances where the group spammed C&G with egoistic garbage in an attempt to make an impression

On ISO: ISO, as a leader, has a horrible track record when it comes to constructing self-sufficient clans. He had broke down several times in public, resigned from his position as a group's leader (promising not to return), and failed to maintain VOID, Arcen and Tza alive without having to consistently resaruct them over and over again.
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ISOLAYTOR is not online. ISOLAYTOR
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16 Oct 2014 06:30 PM
What does resaruct mean?
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ThePhantonHourglass is not online. ThePhantonHourglass
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16 Oct 2014 06:33 PM
NFC - 7.5/10, Belmont is doing well with NFC, maintaining the status quo without doing anything mind blowing.

UAF - 7/10, FalseWarrior has had a clean track record with UAF during his long tenure. He has won the wars he has needed to win and he has gotten the alliances he has needed to attain. UAF has been largely stagnant during this time though, activity has dwindled a bit, and technology has utterly failed - with no success stories.

UCR - 2/10, I don't blame Growncool7 for the failings of UCR. When he got UCR, it was already bottoming out in activity and without much hope. UCR has only recently relied on activity of old veterans, but with even many of those leaving, it is left as a small social group of active members, no technology to be spoken of (still using 2011 base), no prowess in combat and very little respect. Growncool gets a couple points for working internally with UCR and flushing out corruption, but that does very little to help the larger clan, bold changes need to be made.

VOID - 9.5/10, ISO has led the clan to the top. Not much more to say.

RAA - 7.5/10, it does what it needs to do and serves its purpose as a wartime clan. Sasook has always been the only one who can lead it.

SC - 7.5/10, Rivalize is doing well with a clan that has always seemed cursed to fail without Pragmatist. Nothing spectacular, but certainly maintaining itself as a super power.

JC - 4/10, The new era of JC has done little to improve its status in the clan world.

TGI - 8/10, Rodgerdodger has ushered in a new and more open era of TGI, proved himself a huge player in the war scheme of the clan world, and excellently executed on initiatives to improve diplomacy and technology. Good stuff.

FC - 7.5/10, FC has maintained its place in the clan world as a strong force and an enjoyable clan to be in. However, few long-standing successful wars recently have not given the clan an opportunity to truly prove itself.

HAU - 2/10, Irrelevant still.

RSF - 6/10, Fruitbox has been the long standing leader of the clan, and has led it to great heights before, but right now RSF stands as a middling clan.
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coolguy950 is not online. coolguy950
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16 Oct 2014 06:33 PM
My spelling improved since I've stopped using spell check. For the most part, I make little mistakes, but at times, there are some. You perfectly know what the word means, don't pretend my argument doesn't exist just because I've made a simple spelling mistake.
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coolguy950 is not online. coolguy950
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16 Oct 2014 06:42 PM
TPHG, don't take this the wrong way, I've had enourmess respect for you when you played on Meowmixxed, but will there ever be a day where you invest your time, knowledge and potential on a clan that isn't necessarily main-stream?

Wouldn't it feel more rewarding for you to bring a group to the top, rather than lead one that is already up there?
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brian987987 is not online. brian987987
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16 Oct 2014 06:43 PM
NFC - Belmont has been an active member of clan community for a while and seems to be doing a nice job 9/10

UAF - Can't rate as I don't see much of them

UCR - Grown is a old friend and is a good guy, but a leader however I don't see much he's be doing and tbh is just killing UCR further 3/10.

VOID - Isolaytor is a guy who can take a lot of heat and can do a lot under the spot, is doing an extremely nice job with VOID as of now and has taken them from just coming back to #1 spot in clans again. 10/10

RAA - Idk who leads it at this point if it's silly I like sillylego but not the best of leaders so 6/10 and if it's Sasook cool guy and pretty damn good leader so 8/10.

SC - Rivalize has proven to do something that most couldn't do, keep sleet clan alive without pragmatic 8/10 as I can't give a 10/10 to a newer leader.

JC - Atomic has taken the task that to be quite frankly is kind of impossible to do, lead JOHNS cobras. Yes the JOHN was capitalized as it's pspjohn1's group and without psp it won't and will never be JC. Overrall though he's a good friend and a decent leader with an impossible task 7/10.

TGI - Rodger is a cool guy, good friend, and an awesome HR. When it comes to leading however, he just can't seem to find the ability to do it right. He's active but not as active as he should be and tbh doesn't always make the right decisions and before anybody say's rodgers doing another haven here he isn't he's improved a LOT more than he did with haven but overall he isn't doing the best 6/10.

FC - Jjakey the mad doctor is just a cool guy in general and great at keeping FC pumped and doing their jobs... Is he a dignatio? No but he's pretty damn close so 8/10.

HAU - Don't know rainway at all.

RSF - Fruitbox somehow still has it alive and it's been a LONG time so 7/10

(don't have to rate them all)
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ThePhantonHourglass is not online. ThePhantonHourglass
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16 Oct 2014 06:44 PM
I'm not sure what you're referring too Coolguy. I don't really play this game anymore, and when I did play, I either invested my time in groups I helped found (VS, FC) and helped rise to the top or I invested my time in groups I enjoyed (UCR, RAT, UAF, FEAR).

The groups I helped bring to the top, VS and FC, became enormously successful at their heights.
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coolguy950 is not online. coolguy950
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16 Oct 2014 06:49 PM
I haven't been around long enough to recall the establishment of contemporary superpowers and your involvement in them. What I was referring to was based on what I've seen you do throughout my time here. I know you've grown far less active than you used to be, but you still linger around. I wonder, if and when you return, you will go straight to leading the groups at the very top, or the groups that have the potential to make it up there with the right management.
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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16 Oct 2014 06:52 PM
Interesting perspectives.
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Stattrak is not online. Stattrak
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16 Oct 2014 06:53 PM
too lazy

Kappa
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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16 Oct 2014 06:56 PM
Even though I would much rather see simple explanations attached to each group leader you rate, a simple out of 10 would do for me, this is just a survey for my own personal use.

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