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Re: [EL] What are our problems, EL?

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Valiantstorm is not online. Valiantstorm
Joined: 03 Jan 2011
Total Posts: 8469
13 Oct 2014 08:05 PM
How can we go about fixing them?
What do you want us to do different?
What do you want us to do the same?
What do you want to see in EL?
-Approved by Chancellor xMaleden

Blue will prevail, RSF Forever, Contender of the Renasde, C&G Album Admin
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crazy11745 is not online. crazy11745
Joined: 06 Mar 2010
Total Posts: 4262
13 Oct 2014 08:06 PM
How active is EL, nowadays?

-cray cray the killer o3o
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BenxTheory is online. BenxTheory
Joined: 10 Aug 2014
Total Posts: 46
13 Oct 2014 08:08 PM
More highranks trainings better
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xMaleden is not online. xMaleden
Joined: 22 Dec 2010
Total Posts: 2542
13 Oct 2014 08:09 PM
On the rise. I've had far too many tech delays.
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Valiantstorm is not online. Valiantstorm
Joined: 03 Jan 2011
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13 Oct 2014 08:09 PM
We just had about 11 at a late night, school night training!

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hammering is not online. hammering
Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Total Posts: 62
13 Oct 2014 08:10 PM
The Elites need revival.


~Hammering
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Swegr is not online. Swegr
Joined: 01 Feb 2010
Total Posts: 1386
13 Oct 2014 08:11 PM
How can we go about fixing them?
I think the inactivity is going to resolve itself, we have had a good day today and if we continue on that path I think we are golden.

What do you want us to do different?
Have a certain amount of events High Ranks need to host per week or above, just so activity stays up and the actives get rewarded/noticed for it.

What do you want us to do the same?
Keep this promotion system, it increases activity a ton.

What do you want to see in EL?
The activity of old EL, and the ambition of EL currently.

-Officer in Training Level 4 Voltus Gunnery Grub Swegr
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Valiantstorm is not online. Valiantstorm
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13 Oct 2014 08:12 PM
Thanks guys, keep it up!

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Swegr is not online. Swegr
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13 Oct 2014 08:16 PM
What should we do different [2]
Possibly get a few more people as High Ranks, OiTs so it is not much of a rank jump and no one complains, it would create more activity.
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Valiantstorm is not online. Valiantstorm
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13 Oct 2014 08:19 PM
Lr's, don't be afraid to reply!! No one will get demoted!

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MortalShock is not online. MortalShock
Joined: 23 Sep 2014
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13 Oct 2014 08:20 PM
Elites are being taken care of. It's slowly getting better and better each day.
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thecheatchamp is not online. thecheatchamp
Joined: 29 Jan 2013
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13 Oct 2014 08:25 PM
May i be an HR i been a oit for 5 months .-.
And i promise with my words i will host 1-2 Everyday.
I'm an oit level 5 i'm asking Nicely~~ Thecheatchamp.
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thecheatchamp is not online. thecheatchamp
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13 Oct 2014 08:27 PM
The only reason i'm asking because i mostly come to all events and raid.
I'm always loyal to EL and always will be.
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killer1deathshot is not online. killer1deathshot
Joined: 15 May 2011
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13 Oct 2014 08:33 PM
Maybe the OiT Division would change a little? Like seriously, a HR doesn't need combat to become one. All a HR needs to learn is how to improve from their mistakes, not just giving, then if they win, they get promoted.
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thecheatchamp is not online. thecheatchamp
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13 Oct 2014 08:38 PM
I know.
But i did all the levels 1,2,3,4,5
And before zap i have 741 Don't belive me?
Check it.
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thecheatchamp is not online. thecheatchamp
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13 Oct 2014 08:45 PM
Like really i see HR's online sometimes playing games.
The only HR's i see online website and not playing and host trainings at least 1 training a day
is
Hammering
Killer1deathshot
Anim3fr34k
Ironclaw25
xLordFrostz
RetiredColonel
Those HR's are really active.
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Dante4862 is not online. Dante4862
Joined: 20 Apr 2013
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13 Oct 2014 09:17 PM
How can we go about fixing them? Get really good HR's! I recommend thecheatchamp
What do you want us to do different? Add new HR's(ACTIVE ONES)
What do you want us to do the same? Our holo and fort
What do you want to see in EL? A group that will be the best clan on roblox
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gege9876543210 is not online. gege9876543210
Joined: 16 Jul 2009
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13 Oct 2014 09:18 PM
In my opinion, EL is becoming quite similar to RSF. We are both undergoing some identical problems, so it is essential for us to communicate and work together when possible. Anyway, EL is challenged with a few problems such as: a promotion system that simply doesn't function properly, poorly trained High Ranks (which I will go into further depth later), and a lack of attendees in many scenarios.
The former promotional system, a points system using ZAP, was very effective and easy for all High Ranks to use. The only issues occurred in the rank ZAP requirements and the process of High Ranks handing out these points. For one, the standards were set too high that it made it difficult to achieve the required ZAP to advance to the next rank. On top of the fact that High Ranks weren't rewarding ZAP for the correct reasons or at the best times, ranking up was a conflict. There is more to becoming a High Rank than remaining a long term attendee of poor trainings. The current promotional system is rather basic, and though basic is often useful, I do not believe that applies here. Promotions are given out far too easily and with the rush of Captains entering OiT division, these people aren't being trained as closely or effectively allowing them to fly through the stages. It would be best to compose changes in the executive panel, because even though I have not witnessed it myself, many people state that the division itself isn't being led well enough. This leads into my next topic of High Ranks.
At this point, most of the High Ranks in EL have gone through the OiT division without struggles. If they will be permitted to do this, it is necessary for more strictness to be used with High Ranks, particularly lower ranked ones. High Ranks are meant to be looked at as leaders, and when our leaders are foolishly hosting an out of order, ridiculous training, it is damaging EL's reputation. Every single person in our clan is a representative, and if we aren't able to maintain a secure structure within the ranks, we have nothing. Even after the many stages encountered in their training, most High Ranks are unfamiliar with how to properly host a training. Each day, I witness problems within trainings that include disrespect, misbehavior, and teaching styles that are irrelevant to us completely. I recommend something be done, such as a repetitive check, be held to ensure all of your High Ranks are up to standard. This may occur by an activity check, interviews, personal trainings, or any suited method.
I do not think inactivity is really something that needs to be stressed about constantly, because it is not nearly as severe as others make it sound. My only issue with it is that the same people are constantly being the ones to attend events and are not properly being rewarded for their actions. There are many members who will have a very long and successful journey in EL, but when that will happen all depends on when the High Ranks decide to open their eyes and give these members the opportunity to advance.
Most of these problems can simply be solved by getting on the same track as High Ranks, getting suggestions and ideas from members (more meetings where Low Ranks don't have to sit silently and listen to a General speak of idiotic things), and monitoring the actions of High Ranks more closely. I do not think of EL as a bad clan, because it truly isn't, but just as every other clan does, there is a large gap for improvement.
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GlowingHD is not online. GlowingHD
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13 Oct 2014 09:21 PM
dang that paragraph tho
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killer1deathshot is not online. killer1deathshot
Joined: 15 May 2011
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13 Oct 2014 10:03 PM
I'm also kind of into BWE's ideas. HRs are the hardest, doesn't matter what rank, MRs are harder, which means I don't care how much they go through, but they better require skill. LRs, most of them are new to EL, so make them feel welcomed, and don't push them too hard, or at least start putting them disciplined.
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Adam335 is not online. Adam335
Joined: 19 Feb 2011
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13 Oct 2014 10:03 PM
you exist

2,720/100,000
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Valiantstorm is not online. Valiantstorm
Joined: 03 Jan 2011
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13 Oct 2014 10:06 PM
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boboboghost is not online. boboboghost
Joined: 17 Jun 2012
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14 Oct 2014 08:16 AM
^^^ tl'dr
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Vektz is not online. Vektz
Joined: 29 Jan 2011
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14 Oct 2014 09:41 AM
uh if i may

most of our HRs cant host on the weekdays because they actually have a life
:)
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Jradi is online. Jradi
Joined: 15 Aug 2012
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14 Oct 2014 10:04 AM
If RSF and EL are in the same boat, I advise friendly warfare to boost activity by a LOT.


- The Steel King
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