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| 12 Oct 2014 08:05 PM |
| guys i see the biggest plot hole in death battle if goku charged up the spirit bomb why didn't he just absorb the energy of the galaxy and direct it at super man while super man is only absorbing the power of the sun i mean goku could absorb the power of 5000 sun's while he's doing that! plus he can prob absorb super man's life energy also! if not still the whole galaxy!! also remember when king kai was watching the saiyan ships fly in space that were traveling at 681,133,333.333 miles/second but he wasn't able to track how fast goku and frieza were fighting at that means that they were fighting several times faster then the speed of light :P |
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| 12 Oct 2014 08:11 PM |
| superman wins because dbz is stupid |
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MCAdo
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| 12 Oct 2014 08:15 PM |
Every fibre of my being hates this scenario And this is coming as a big fan of both Superman and Dragon Ball
First of all, it grinds my butt how DBZ fanboys are always ranting about how Superman is a one dimensional character who can never lose. Yet Goku isn't exactly the poster child for character development, and there is no permanent death, permanent being as in the classical if you die you die, no raising from the dead, even if it is one-time. I think both characters are in the same boat of how the people around them are more interesting (i.e., Vegeta, Lex Luthor, Gohan).
And this is the worst comparison ever. Of course Goku will win. It isn't even a thought. Goku can win against even Pre-Crisis Superman without breaking a sweat. There are people in the DBZ universe that can destroy planets in a thought, and these people appear DURING THE VEGETA SAGA, WHICH IS NEAR THE BEGINNING OF THE DANG SHOW
So yeah, this is dumb All of this is dumb
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MrGrimmer
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| 12 Oct 2014 08:15 PM |
| prep time?? bats wins again! |
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| 12 Oct 2014 08:25 PM |
| i was just doing it because there are alot of superman fan boys that dont know :/ the very facts |
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| 12 Oct 2014 08:25 PM |
| and spidey your on all of my threads why so? |
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MCAdo
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MrGrimmer
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| 13 Oct 2014 02:45 PM |
| hes patrolling MTVB for crime |
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| 13 Oct 2014 04:06 PM |
"guys i see the biggest plot hole in death battle if goku charged up the spirit bomb why didn't he just absorb the energy of the galaxy and direct it at super man while super man is only absorbing the power of the sun i mean goku could absorb the power of 5000 sun's while he's doing that!"
Death Battle nerfed Superman because the strongest Superman would smack Goku around and there wouldn't be a video at all. Universal spirit bomb couldn't even destroy a star system, barely a planet. It's not special at all. A galactic one is just putting Goku at even more of a disadvantage.
"plus he can prob absorb super man's life energy also! if not still the whole galaxy!! "
No. It doesn't work like that.
"also remember when king kai was watching the saiyan ships fly in space that were traveling at 681,133,333.333 miles/second but he wasn't able to track how fast goku and frieza were fighting at that means that they were fighting several times faster then the speed of light :P"
No, they weren't. Just faster than eye speed. DBZ just recently reached FTL with BoG.
"Every fibre of my being hates this scenario And this is coming as a big fan of both Superman and Dragon Ball"
You obviously aren't a big Superman fan if you truly believe that Goku could even step to the strongest Superman.
"First of all, it grinds my butt how DBZ fanboys are always ranting about how Superman is a one dimensional character who can never lose. Yet Goku isn't exactly the poster child for character development, and there is no permanent death, permanent being as in the classical if you die you die, no raising from the dead, even if it is one-time. I think both characters are in the same boat of how the people around them are more interesting (i.e., Vegeta, Lex Luthor, Gohan)."
Don't care for this part.
"And this is the worst comparison ever. Of course Goku will win. It isn't even a thought. Goku can win against even Pre-Crisis Superman without breaking a sweat. There are people in the DBZ universe that can destroy planets in a thought, and these people appear DURING THE VEGETA SAGA, WHICH IS NEAR THE BEGINNING OF THE DANG SHOW"
Scenario aside, base Supes in one version sneezed away a solar system and Goku hasn't shown the ability to destroy anything above a star system...
SP1M is galactic level DC wise if not universal. Goku is a peon and SSJ God didn't even beat a solar system buster at 70% of his power.
Also, the time at which they appeared is irrelevant. Dragon Ball's powerscaling is extremely inconsistent. There were self proclaimed planet busters during the Vegeta saga, yet by the Cell saga, arcs later, the series was still full of planet busting claims and Cell CLAIMED that he could destroy a solar system (which was a bluff).
"So yeah, this is dumb All of this is dumb"
So was your reasoning.
For Goku to defeat Superman you'd have to put him up against a weaker version, which would be unfair to begin with. |
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| 13 Oct 2014 04:07 PM |
| And I can't wait for the idiot that comes in with the constantly negated "Goku ITs to kryptonite" argument. |
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| 13 Oct 2014 04:24 PM |
| Probably not. Yuki, on the other hand... |
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| 13 Oct 2014 04:58 PM |
| actually i did some research it actually was traveling that fast ^_^ |
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| 13 Oct 2014 05:00 PM |
| btw broly was able to destroy galaxies now that goku is far beyond him in battle of the gods i think he can do more than that ^_^ |
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| 13 Oct 2014 05:02 PM |
| here i'll even send a link to the page where he did all the math ^_^ http://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/1ko1ww/how_fast_were_the_saiyans_traveling_when_they/ |
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| 13 Oct 2014 07:38 PM |
"actually i did some research it actually was traveling that fast ^_^"
"here i'll even send a link to the page where he did all the math ^_^ http://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/1ko1ww/how_fast_were_the_saiyans_traveling_when_they/"
Those calcs are for the speed of the ships. Making it to earth in a year in fiction isn't that much of a feat, especially compared to Superman who has flown at FTL speeds to the point that he literally went back in time. FTL speed really doesn't help the argument because Superman is still faster. Flying across space carrying multiple planets on a chain > flying through space in a pod at a supposed speed.
Bills and Whis actually traveled using their own speed. That was a true FTL feat.
"btw broly was able to destroy galaxies now that goku is far beyond him in battle of the gods i think he can do more than that ^_^"
Broly didn't destroy the galaxy mentioned in the movie. He clearly only ravaged through it over a period of time. An imbecile could figure this out due to the fact that the movie was set in the galaxy that was supposedly destroyed. |
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| 13 Oct 2014 08:00 PM |
| it's been said he did it by turning super saiyan i bet that goku could do that easily now that he is many times stronger and if you think that the saiyan pod theory was wrong look here i bet you will be proved wrong :l www.comicvine.com/goku/4005-19765/forums/goku-is-faster-than-light-1464475/ |
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| 13 Oct 2014 08:07 PM |
| actually i was wrong on that broly destroyed the galaxy slowly by planet by planet i thought you meant slowly like attacking it with gigantic burst's of energy or something simmialar |
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| 13 Oct 2014 08:39 PM |
| maybe Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta can beat him... |
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| 14 Oct 2014 12:36 AM |
"it's been said he did it by turning super saiyan i bet that goku could do that easily now that he is many times stronger and if you think that the saiyan pod theory was wrong look here i bet you will be proved wrong :l www.comicvine.com/goku/4005-19765/forums/goku-is-faster-than-light-1464475/"
"actually i was wrong on that broly destroyed the galaxy slowly by planet by planet i thought you meant slowly like attacking it with gigantic burst's of energy or something simmialar"
Broly didn't even destroy things with planetary attacks. He literally just ravaged through the galaxy. That's not galaxy busting. Not going to bother with the FTL claim because I've debated about it many times and it still doesn't negate the fact that the SP1M is faster and stronger, especially when weaker versions have accomplished more quantifiable speed feats. |
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| 14 Oct 2014 12:37 AM |
| And no, SSJ4 Gogeta can't beat SP1M either. |
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| 14 Oct 2014 12:48 AM |
| so basically you deny the facts that are given to you? i mean dude if you wanna debate you gotta read the facts to see if its true :/ |
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| 14 Oct 2014 04:21 AM |
| What's the point in checking the same thing over a debate I've done hundreds of times when it holds no significance to the outcome of the battle? |
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| 14 Oct 2014 11:07 AM |
| its either you read whats given to you or you don't its very simple if not then can you just go to another thread because i'm not willing to debate if you wont accept what is given |
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