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Re: [John's Cobras] Message to Soticule Forces

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assasinlord5 is not online. assasinlord5
Joined: 23 Oct 2010
Total Posts: 8395
11 Oct 2014 07:10 PM
written by atomicrxn aka da truth



JC has been in-dev since the day I was given the group. And yes, we are actually getting work done. Expect to see some things in November if all goes well. May release some pictures of the guns we have made sometime this week. This is all being made possible by Tridon Industries.
Moreover, I even have the text "IN-DEV" written at the top of the group description. This was to aware any clan of JC's current technological status, in the case that anyone might want to war.

When Paul declared war on JC, this is how I responded:
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=147422248

I specifically said I did not want to negotiate because I was fully aware that one way or another, both sides would be feuding over base updates. The clan world has seen this before with previous wars- one of the greatest examples of constant base updating, the VAK-TGI war. I dealt with the same issue when JC was at war with HAU. Spent 8+ hours in a conference chat, trying to deal things out with Cubyfan. How I managed to spend 8 hours with Cuby is beyond me.

Likewise, my instinct was right. However, at the same time, I take full responsibility for even trying to negotiate at the end.
In my response statement, I said I would not be updating Fang and that Paul would have to deal with our current tech if he decided to continue on with the war. Furthermore, I even offered a sit down with Paul to schedule the war at a different time- when JC had new tech released, and a more suitable fort. He completely ignored this offer and went on with the war.

Hands down, postponing the war for a later time in the future would've been a better option. Wasn't my call though, it was Paul's. I guess he was hungry to get a war victory over JC because he thought we'd be really REALLY easy to beat. But that wasn't the case at all ..

Paul originally set the objective of the war to 30 raid wins. This can be found here: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=147414700

After losing countless raids at Fang, he starts to become frustrated and annoyed. He abruptly decides that the objective is 20 raid wins, and doesn't even notify me of this change. Guess he thought this war was going to be a lot more difficult than he initially thought. He will say that typing in '30' was a typo. What do I call that? I call that BS, and I can support it with the amount of BS he had JC put up with. You too, will see this BS as you read further down this thread. His word at this point, is just unreliable.

I have tried to be as honorable as I possibly could in the decisions I made with this war. I generously removed the uzis (which were really laggy) from the raider's starterpack and let them spawn with the same M16s JC spawned with. I did not request Paul to make any changes to his base UNTIL about 4 of our raids (in which we held the terminal for a reasonable amount of time) were successfully fended off by SF and their very cheap tactics. When SF raided, all you would read in the chat is a bunch of whining and complaining. They wanted a lot of changes made to Fang. They wanted us to replace Fang's weaponry with the tech Paul offered, lower Fang server size, and lower the terminal. That's probably not even all the updates they wanted me to make.
When the war began, SF had special cliff access at their spawn. When we had the checkpoint, SF would camp up on the cliffs right above the checkpoint and drop down to cap it when they found the right moment.

They try to compare this advantage to Fang's group door- two things that you CANNOT compare. You cannot compare height advantage and something as simple as a group door which gets camped to hell. If I added direct access to the cliff at JC's spawn, hardly any JC would be using the group door. Why? Because having greater height is a better home advantage to have rather than use lousy group doors.

This special cliff access SF had heavily unbalanced their fort. I finally decided to talk to Paul, and I told him if he did not remove cliff access at his base, I would bring back the uzis. He declined, I brought uzis back. Later that day, we had another talk. Assasinlord5 came up with an offer- I would lower Fang's flag to 1500 seconds and give them M16s back, in exchange that Paul remove cliffs at his base.

PAUL ACCEPTED. By then, SF had been raiding Fang for several days often ending their nights with disappointment. By Wednesday, they had only gathered 2 *lucky* raid wins. On Thursday, a lot of our defenders were offline. SF heavily outnumbered JC at Fang, and we suffered 6 losses. JC defended every server, AA'd none, played fair.

The war turned around on Friday morning, when Paul finally removed their cliff access. JC got 4 wins, could've gotten more. FOUR of our raids were destroyed because of Garzen (SF HR) AA'ing, SF refusing to defend servers, and Paul shutting down servers for updates without consent. We could've tied the war 8-8.

After we got our first win at their base, Garzen banned the entire raider team. He intentionally banned us and left the server open so we could not win again. Here he is admitting to it.
First raid win, banned us: /cDElbYO
Banning us so we couldn't raid the server again: /fepxGv5

We did not know he banned us for this reason, we simply re-rallied after our first raid win and launched a second raid. We were all banned from that server and he refused to shut it down/kick everyone from the server.

Here is proof of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO9IHmuOXsc

Furthermore, we launched again and made a 2nd server. He unbanned us from the first, and tried to get us to join the 1st. We denied, we wanted to raid the 2nd server with all of our 12 men. We left plenty of room for them in the server. SF have server hopped at Fang as well, and we still defended our servers. Garzen shut down our server, refused to defend it. We waited for over 30 minutes waiting for SF to come defend the 2nd server, and none came. So, we launched our attack. Garzen came and banned us.

Here is proof of him banning us: /YCTqU2E
Here is proof of SF refusing to defend: /XpSZ4HY + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwSDbLIt1Qg

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Here is ALL of the video evidence and pics of the abuse we had to deal with. These are all mgggurr URLS.

/a/pAa4K#0

/h2LgZ9y,gnD3veb,dLn9fhc,dfiaTqd,JPBWF1K,ddUiiE7,fPAoMbi,ue79Enw,ERgtihM,ySalZwU,btmYRFM,HAi6Ckx#0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwSDbLIt1Qg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6SlVZLO23Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO9IHmuOXsc
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It's funny. SF start losing raids when they remove cliff access. It says a lot. Tell me. What clan with an OP fort like that could EVER lose a defense? The fact that they lost raids to WIJ with how OP their fort is, just makes them even more trash.
With the war score 8-4, JC catching up, Paul REVERTS his update and brings back the cliffs. I told Paul if he didn't remove cliffs his cliffs again, I would revert Fang as well. He knew SF would lose the war without their OP cliffs. I even have chat logs of Paul admitting how OP this part of his fort was.

[16:19] [JC EMPEROR] AtomicRXN: Nah. If you don't remove cliff access, I'll just bring back the uzis.
[16:19] [JC EMPEROR] AtomicRXN: :)
[16:20] [SF COM] Paul321321: You can bring back the uzi's if you want but you won't win a single raid at our base lol
[16:21] [SF COM] Paul321321: And you know it, with the cliff access you won't ever win.
[16:21] [SF COM] Paul321321: So you might as well bring something to the table that I'm interested in.
[16:21] [JC EMPEROR] AtomicRXN: So you just admit to your advantage at your base being overly OP.
[16:21] [JC EMPEROR] AtomicRXN: Thanks.
[16:21] [SF COM] Paul321321: Well
[16:22] [SF COM] Paul321321: SF > JC
[16:22] [SF COM] Paul321321: And the fact that you WANT this cliff to go away
[16:22] [SF COM] Paul321321: Just proves my point
[16:22] [SF COM] Paul321321: that you can't win unless i remove it
[16:22] [JC EMPEROR] AtomicRXN: You'd be losing raids
[16:22] [JC EMPEROR] AtomicRXN: here and there
[16:22] [JC EMPEROR] AtomicRXN: If it weren't for your cliff access
[16:22] [JC EMPEROR] AtomicRXN: And you just admit it.

And again, I was right ^^ - SF starts losing defenses when they remove cliffs. I never made Fang more OP when we started losing raids- especially not on Thursday when we suffered 6 consecutive losses. We took losing raids way better than SF did. There was no other way of talking Paul into removing cliff access again. I even offered to drop Fang's timer to 1400, 100 secs less than the 1500 we dropped it to, and 400 secs less than what the timer INITIALLY was (1800 secs). I was literally making Fang EASIER for SF to raid.

Never before has Fang endured so many changes and updates, and not one clan in JC's history of war has demanded so many changes to Fang. Many clans like UAF, TRA, FC, TGI, VAK, RAT, RSF, FEAR, BWE, WIJ, and many other clans (AND SMALLER) have all won at Fang when it was even HARDER to raid. Keep in mind of the mines, the tanks, and the suits we had at Fang before. Even with those, clans STILL won at Fang. Fang was literally a punching bag for clans. It was fun, and easy to raid (if you knew what you were doing).
Nonetheless, SF got 8 wins on us and STILL complained wanting us to make Fang EASIER to raid.

JC asked for ONE update. Remove the cliffs. SF asked for MANY.
When I made updates to Fang, I told Paul what they were and even asked him if he wanted me to shut down servers for updates. When Paul updated, he slipped in small updates (he added a 3rd ladder on their wall and made the wall of the building near the cave shorter) and didn't even ask me if I wanted servers to be shut down for updates. ON TOP OF THAT, childishly reverts updates to his fort and makes more updates without speaking to me about them.

When the war began, SF's terminal was up to 1200 seconds, and they had a server size of 18. Paul switched the 1200 seconds to 1800 seconds, and changed the server size from 18, to 30, then 24. When he removed the cliffs, he changed it to 18 (which was the only update he made that we even fully agreed on).

After adding back the cliffs last night, Paul offered to give both teams access to cliffs. We suggested the removal of the checkpoint, he agreed. He gave the raider team a long ladder that was easily camped and shot at, when I had initially requested him to rotate the brick. That way, we could jump on it and slide up just like the way it was at SF's spawn. Paul said he didn't know how to ...
ON TOP OF THAT, he changes the server size from 18 to 24 without asking.
He eventually changed it to 18 later last night during the ceasefire.

These were updates Paul had offered, and we were skeptical about them. He left us no other choice, we knew Paul wouldn't remove the cliffs again. SF don't take losing very well.
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I could've declared auto win on Friday for the BS we were put up with. AA, shutting down servers, refusal to defend servers, and reverting fort updates after we had made a FIRM deal ... simply because we got 4 raid wins and were looking to turn the war around ...

You could not make any progress if you did not let Paul and his high ranks have it their way. The updates that went into Fang today were a way to resemble the BS of Paul and SF.
However, even I will admit- I stooped to SF's level today when I made that ridiculous Fang update. Really, it was just to see their reaction and get them to feel agrivated- just as we had felt yesterday.

I could be calling an auto win here, just like Paul.
But I won't do that.
I call that there is no victor of this war. I'd be happy to do this again at another time, when both of us have new tech and new forts.

However, Paul ...
if in the next few hours you still have JC in your defeated list, I will do the same. SF will be added to our defeated list. The BS that you had us put up with is greater than what we had you put up with.

I am not calling an auto win. Me putting you up in our defeated list, and you putting us in yours, just means unfinished business in the eyes of the general public.

RAID WINS: /a/G72zj
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I want to thank all the hard working JC who spent hours defending Fang, and raiding. Thank you to intel teams who put together base layouts, and mapped out some plans.
Thank you to the dev teams who have still been hard at work building and scripting- all the while, making sure your clan doesn't lose a war.

People like to say that JC has changed, and others would argue the opposite.
I do not believe JC has changed, not yet.

You amongst many others will see the true change ...
soon ..
but for now ...

GLORY TO THE EMPIRE!
HAIL COBRAS!


tl;dr
no victors of this war

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NiteOwlFac is not online. NiteOwlFac
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11 Oct 2014 07:12 PM
HAIL COBRAS!
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crazy11745 is not online. crazy11745
Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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11 Oct 2014 07:12 PM
yes
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StoneHell is not online. StoneHell
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11 Oct 2014 07:16 PM
Lol paul's ego
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momo113 is not online. momo113
Joined: 30 Mar 2010
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11 Oct 2014 07:19 PM
"""""""""""""""" You [paul] declared the war, meaning your clan was ready to put up with the conditions our current base, and tech is in.
I will not be changing anything, and I will not request anything of you for your base. So no, I'm not adding in the guns you've requested. """"""""""""""""""""""""""


end
end


we win

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Blast87 is not online. Blast87
Joined: 01 Aug 2011
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11 Oct 2014 07:20 PM
SF has been reporting all of these threads in order to keep these facts quite
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momo113 is not online. momo113
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11 Oct 2014 07:21 PM
learn to spell quiet noob. and no we too busy raiding .-.

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Blast87 is not online. Blast87
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11 Oct 2014 07:23 PM
Blame Microsoft Surface.
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uncoverloser is not online. uncoverloser
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11 Oct 2014 07:26 PM
hi
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seeks is not online. seeks
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
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11 Oct 2014 07:35 PM
u sum dum door we win u lose gtfo don't come back

-seeks
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assasinlord5 is not online. assasinlord5
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11 Oct 2014 07:43 PM
shut up seeks lol no1 wins
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Ghosty2Spooks is not online. Ghosty2Spooks
Joined: 04 Dec 2010
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11 Oct 2014 07:45 PM
heil cobras


-perfume your neck and slip your high heels on-
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SparrowStorm is not online. SparrowStorm
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11 Oct 2014 07:46 PM
ridiculously sad on how you all handled SF
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allII789456123 is not online. allII789456123
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11 Oct 2014 08:03 PM
"JC asked for ONE update. Remove the cliffs. SF asked for MANY."
thats stupid jc were the ones who asked for many and sf removed everything jc wanted (expect cliffs) lmao
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momo113 is not online. momo113
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11 Oct 2014 08:04 PM
We lead in raid wins thus we win .-.

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allII789456123 is not online. allII789456123
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11 Oct 2014 08:09 PM
plus the only advantage sf had was the cliffs, jc have many other advantages even the cliffs so quit crying you lost
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Reversonal is not online. Reversonal
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11 Oct 2014 08:11 PM
PAUL IS THE WORST LEADER AND SO IS SF!!!!! ALL HAIL COBRAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
Joined: 16 Jul 2010
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11 Oct 2014 08:12 PM
So what you're saying is that SF declared a draw? They certainly didn't win, especially if they didn't reach the agreed upon 30 victories.
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paul321321 is not online. paul321321
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11 Oct 2014 08:14 PM
"So what you're saying is that SF declared a draw? They certainly didn't win, especially if they didn't reach the agreed upon 30 victories."

I didn't declare a draw, I declared a victory the original was 20 wins 30 was a typo and I explained that to Atomic before the war started. W
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Valaxo is not online. Valaxo
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11 Oct 2014 08:14 PM
JC would lose a lot more raids if they put the spawn back and removed the JC only doors.
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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11 Oct 2014 08:16 PM
If I remember correctly, SF didn't reach 20 wins either. I heard that the score was 11-4 in SF's favor today.
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AtomicRXN is not online. AtomicRXN
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11 Oct 2014 08:17 PM
@False- No, SF is declaring auto win. I claimed that there is no victor.

@everyone else saying we asked sf to change a bunch of stuff- we only asked to get the cliff access removed
he could have compromised a different advantage rather than the OP cliffs
we just wanted the cliff access removed
period

he kept changing the terminal timer and the server size when he wasn't supposed to
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paul321321 is not online. paul321321
Joined: 28 Feb 2012
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11 Oct 2014 08:17 PM
And then when JC made an update where JC spawn on the mountain and Atomic REFUSED to revert the base I claimed a victory. You don't get to pull bs to make the war a draw.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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11 Oct 2014 08:18 PM
@False

That was after JC lifted their spawn above the cliffs and put a 100 cash hover spawn right next to their spawn.
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
Joined: 16 Jul 2010
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11 Oct 2014 08:18 PM
So what you're saying is that you declared a victory, even though you didn't meet the pre-established conditions?

Forget about a UAF-SF war. I won't associate my clan with this kind of behavior.
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