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Re: Remember those classic-training centers?

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Noelzilla1 is not online. Noelzilla1
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29 Sep 2014 04:53 PM
Without the holos? Good times.
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HelliousMonarch is not online. HelliousMonarch
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29 Sep 2014 04:57 PM
Yeah, when it was simple, without a bunch of script fails and other bull.
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HelliousMonarch is not online. HelliousMonarch
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29 Sep 2014 04:57 PM
When you didn't say :obby1 to train your soldiers. Really good times.
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Mastivious is not online. Mastivious
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29 Sep 2014 04:57 PM
many still exist

holos are just superior
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Noelzilla1 is not online. Noelzilla1
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29 Sep 2014 04:58 PM
Ikr? I still carry on that tradition, I have a training place that doesn't use holos, holos are too generic today.
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fleskural is not online. fleskural
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29 Sep 2014 04:58 PM
Holos aren't superior.

They're pretty boring actually and ruin world building
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AmazingAnt is not online. AmazingAnt
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29 Sep 2014 04:59 PM
Nope
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Mastivious is not online. Mastivious
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29 Sep 2014 04:59 PM
a non-generic holo can be made just fine

developers are just too lazy to make them.
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Noelzilla1 is not online. Noelzilla1
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29 Sep 2014 04:59 PM
@Flesk I use the holos for battlegrounds now, pretty nice though.
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fleskural is not online. fleskural
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29 Sep 2014 05:00 PM
You have no idea what you're talking about mast.

Holos are annoying and tedious to make and in the end ruin the theme.
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Mastivious is not online. Mastivious
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29 Sep 2014 05:01 PM
"Holos aren't superior.

They're pretty boring actually and ruin world building"

1) they lag less.
2) easier to host at for the newer hosts.
3) ORGANIZED.
4) events already setup for you (easier to host at for the newer hosts [2])

cons

1) they're smaller so they can feel more boring at times.
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Noelzilla1 is not online. Noelzilla1
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29 Sep 2014 05:02 PM
@mast I use both the small ones and the battleground simulation types.


The battleground simulations are cool, there's one I made and it's Deltran II.
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Mastivious is not online. Mastivious
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29 Sep 2014 05:04 PM
my only problem with holos is when someone makes really generic maps for them

you know like

(entire map list)

sft
colors
sharks
obby1
obby2
obby3
gtdm
stdm
[actual map name here]
[actual map name here]
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fleskural is not online. fleskural
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29 Sep 2014 05:04 PM
"They lag less"

They have an incredibly minimal reduction.

Until we're talking up to 10K or so parts lag shouldn't be a problem and the fact that holos have to load in hundreds of parts every so often actually increases lag in short bursts.
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Mastivious is not online. Mastivious
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29 Sep 2014 05:08 PM
"They have an incredibly minimal reduction.

less to render=less lag.

"then just turn your graphics down!"

holos=small=everything renders pretty much no matter what graphics you're on

"Until we're talking up to 10K or so parts lag shouldn't be a problem and the fact that holos have to load in hundreds of parts every so often actually increases lag in short bursts."

and why is it better to have lag all the time rather than 5 second bursts?

"until we're talking up to 10k parts"

the amazing thing about holos is that it doesnt matter how many dam parts you have because everything is in serverstorage

holos=can fit more maps=more entertainment
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Mastivious is not online. Mastivious
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29 Sep 2014 05:08 PM
@mast

*can fit more maps with less lag
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HelliousMonarch is not online. HelliousMonarch
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29 Sep 2014 06:07 PM
If you need a computer to organize a training for you, anyone can be taught how to train soldiers in 10 minutes with a holo. I always use the older types of training places, besides I actually TRAIN my soldiers, I don't just tell them to have random FFA'S and fight each other in 1v1's. I teach them tactics, team work, and how to fight.
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Mastivious is not online. Mastivious
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29 Sep 2014 06:12 PM
"If you need a computer to organize a training for you, anyone can be taught how to train soldiers in 10 minutes with a holo. I always use the older types of training places, besides I actually TRAIN my soldiers, I don't just tell them to have random FFA'S and fight each other in 1v1's. I teach them tactics, team work, and how to fight."

you can easily "Train your soldiers" on a holo as well.

step 1

open a map

step 2

teach them some tactics just as you would without a holo

seriously all a holo is is a normal training place except smaller and less laggy

>_>
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HelliousMonarch is not online. HelliousMonarch
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29 Sep 2014 06:17 PM
Script breaks.

I just like it better in my opinion because that's how I was trained, and spent my time on here going through. Not these stupid Holos, I'm sick of it. Someone needs an original idea.
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Mastivious is not online. Mastivious
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29 Sep 2014 06:19 PM
"Script breaks.

I just like it better in my opinion because that's how I was trained, and spent my time on here going through. Not these stupid Holos, I'm sick of it. Someone needs an original idea."

"script breaks"

depends on how good your script is, lol.

"I just like it better in my opinion because that's how I was trained, and spent my time on here going through."

nothing wrong with an opinion, i can understand that.

"I'm sick of it. Someone needs an original idea.""

you just explained the problem with the entire clan world in one sentence gg
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Assalto is not online. Assalto
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29 Sep 2014 06:22 PM
like this?

http://www.roblox.com/WIJ-Training-Base-Catalina-place?id=139257453
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HelliousMonarch is not online. HelliousMonarch
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29 Sep 2014 11:02 PM
"Like this?" Sort of, yeah.

Even VAK doesn't use a holo.

And yes, I did explain the problem with the clan world in one sentence.

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