MapleHash
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:35 PM |
| or maybe not declare war on the US when japan bombed pearl harbour?? |
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:35 PM |
| implying the germans were in charge of the japenese |
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Hare8901
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:36 PM |
"or maybe not declare war on the US when japan bombed pearl harbour??"
i believe the deal was allies would help us in pacific if they helped in europe |
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:36 PM |
Couple of problems with that theory.
1. They started conflicts with the soviet union by invading poland before even threatening the UK.
2. Japan and the US would of been confronted anyways, they would probably go to war anyways.
Maybe if germany made certain peace with russia, then maybe he could apply more resources to attack the UK, if the US couldn't help in time.
dont start a war on two fronts |
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Hare8901
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:37 PM |
"1. They started conflicts with the soviet union by invading poland before even threatening the UK."
considering the soviet union occupied half of poland when they blitzed it i doubt its true |
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McSpooFy
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:37 PM |
| No. America is a sleeping "lion" as it is rephrased to. We attack, ya, we hit and bomb, ya. But mess with us to threaten our land and our the USA people. We will nuke you and atomic bomb you. USA puts up with a lot of crap. Because they choose to. Just like ISIS yesterday. What did we do to them after we got tired of it? |
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:38 PM |
no when the us declared war on japan germany declared war on the US.
badbadbadbadbadbad move, even if the us had enough of a motive to declare war on germany they didn't they singled out japan. |
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SAPCenter
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:38 PM |
| If weak Japan didn't surrender like the wimp it is today. |
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:46 PM |
"considering the soviet union occupied half of poland when they blitzed it i doubt its true"
^
That proves my point.
Germany invaded poland -->Part soviet union ---->Therefore waging war on the soviet union.
If the japanese could of destroyed our entire naval fleet right in the beginning of the war, the US might of surrendered or faced threats from the west coast.
US's industrial might prevailed when japan failed to take the initiative. |
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Hare8901
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:47 PM |
| no i mean once germany invaded poland germany occupied east and su the west |
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SAPCenter
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:48 PM |
| Um germany and russia agreed to split poland before the treaty was broken. |
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:48 PM |
But thats what germany did do..
They took over poland and started the eastern front...
Therefore going to war against the russians.. |
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MaIlard
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:48 PM |
OR NOT BREAK THE RUSSIAN PACT
OR AT LEAST TRAIN IN SNOWY CONDITIONS BEFORE INVADING |
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kolwalski
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Hare8901
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:49 PM |
"Germany invaded poland -->Part soviet union ---->Therefore waging war on the soviet union."
no just no.
germany and the USSR had an agreement and both sides invaded poland and and both sides had half of poland and kept an uneasy alliance until germany betrayed them in operation barbarossa |
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:49 PM |
wtf hare your argument made no sense
you do realize, germany took over the entire poland territory
causing the eastern front
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Hare8901
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:50 PM |
"OR AT LEAST TRAIN IN SNOWY CONDITIONS BEFORE INVADING"
hmmm I dont think you understand the good strategy of the soviet union
the issue isnt they lacked training, it was that they ran out of supplies and it WAS cold.
you still die from hypothermia if you train in the cold |
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:50 PM |
yes
what do you not understand about my point
germany took over the entire poland
breaking the treaty
leading to the war with russia |
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Hare8901
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:50 PM |
"wtf hare your argument made no sense
you do realize, germany took over the entire poland territory
causing the eastern front"
no germany invaded poland in the east and soviet union in the west
as a team
THEN germany invaded the soviet union which caused the eastern front |
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:52 PM |
russia suffered in the cold
they didnt have the best training or the best supplied army either
luckily the US funded the russians by giving them boots, guns and trucks to tow their artillery (which probably saved the eastern front)
russia still suffered major causalities with its tactics
in the winter war against finland
25,000 finnish causalities over 225,000 russian ones |
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:53 PM |
yes hare
i know there
either way
germany invaded poland -->INCLUDING THE RUSSIAN SIDE
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Hare8901
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:53 PM |
| hmm i think killer learned history on a cereal box |
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INFRING3
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| 17 Sep 2014 05:56 PM |
| *Red neck hillbilly voice* MURICA IS THE BEST, WE would've won anyway |
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