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Re: How can I know that anything not of my mind exists?

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ChillyFugitive2 is not online. ChillyFugitive2
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14 Sep 2014 05:19 PM
Not to bring epistemology into OT, but I've recently been wondering about solipsist theory. Certainly, the only thing that is known to exist to an individual is his or her own mind, correct? Indeed, infants and toddlers are believed to express solipsist traits until they grow older, but can they be correct? The only thing certain to me is that my mind exists; outside of it, to my mind, you--and the world--are merely of my imagination.
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Dalziellian is not online. Dalziellian
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14 Sep 2014 05:20 PM
How can you be certain your mind exists?
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Slumberous is not online. Slumberous
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14 Sep 2014 05:21 PM
How can we know this was copy and pasted?
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futureman13 is not online. futureman13
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14 Sep 2014 05:21 PM
youarere not deep
you are fat
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ChillyFugitive2 is not online. ChillyFugitive2
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14 Sep 2014 05:21 PM
I am certain that my mind exists because I am capable of thought, no? I am aware and am capable of thought.
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ChillyFugitive2 is not online. ChillyFugitive2
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14 Sep 2014 05:22 PM
This wasn't copied and pasted because I recently started researching this after reading 1984 by George Orwell.
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Stonixx is not online. Stonixx
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14 Sep 2014 05:22 PM
Oh look, a nihlist.
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ChillyFugitive2 is not online. ChillyFugitive2
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14 Sep 2014 05:23 PM
@Future: Well, this could be defined as "deep." Solipsism is the only epistemological position that cannot be proven or refuted.
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ChillyFugitive2 is not online. ChillyFugitive2
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14 Sep 2014 05:25 PM
@Stonixx I'm not a nihlist, I am simply exploring the possibility that nothing outside of my mind exists. I am neither confirming nor denying solipsism, but I am merely bringing up the theory of it.
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clockworksilents is not online. clockworksilents
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14 Sep 2014 05:25 PM
Ok

-clears throat-
-grabs microphone-
-speaks into microphone saying the following-

OP is Making me go butthurt and also my mind just died and every single brain cell i had just committed suicide the end



-HERP'A'DERP.EXE had stopped working-
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ChillyFugitive2 is not online. ChillyFugitive2
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14 Sep 2014 05:26 PM
@clockwork: I know, right? The mysteries of life.
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Dalziellian is not online. Dalziellian
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14 Sep 2014 05:26 PM
Imagination is based off of reality
You think because you observe things, record them, and reframe them in your mind
There is no original thought

So the entirety of your mind is based off of things you imagine, why are you sure your mind isn't imagined?
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ChillyFugitive2 is not online. ChillyFugitive2
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14 Sep 2014 05:28 PM
@Dalziellian: I think you have this backward. Solipsism states that there is no such thing as reality--that reality is merely a fabrication of the mind. That being said, I am sure that my mind isn't imagined because I am capable of thought.
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Stonixx is not online. Stonixx
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14 Sep 2014 05:30 PM
Dude...
What if we're just a figment of a dream of a giant cosmic whale?
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michaeldead is not online. michaeldead
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14 Sep 2014 05:30 PM
I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you may not hear from me again for a while on OT. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh.
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Dalziellian is not online. Dalziellian
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14 Sep 2014 05:31 PM
I know what solipsism is, don't patronise me.

What I'm saying is that you can't prove your mind is real
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ChillyFugitive2 is not online. ChillyFugitive2
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14 Sep 2014 05:31 PM
@michaeldead: I like how you couldn't bring up any evidence to refute my statement. Nice job poisoning the well.
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ChillyFugitive2 is not online. ChillyFugitive2
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14 Sep 2014 05:33 PM
@Dal: Sorry.

Anyway, by your position, then nobody can prove that their mind exists. Then the universe is fake.
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Dalziellian is not online. Dalziellian
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14 Sep 2014 05:34 PM
The universe might be fake

We can't disprove it exists either
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ChillyFugitive2 is not online. ChillyFugitive2
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14 Sep 2014 05:37 PM
@Dal: Evidently, something must exist, or else we wouldn't be having this discussion right now, correct? Or am I just missing something?
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ChinchiilaMaster is not online. ChinchiilaMaster
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14 Sep 2014 05:37 PM
Bonzi

it's all bonzi
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awsomedude2323 is not online. awsomedude2323
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14 Sep 2014 05:38 PM
how about u just shut up and live life without thinking of useless stuff that you'll never figure out because of the limitations of being human?
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ChillyFugitive2 is not online. ChillyFugitive2
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14 Sep 2014 05:40 PM
@awsomedude: Am I not allowed to have an intellectual discussion of something that interests me?
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awsomedude2323 is not online. awsomedude2323
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14 Sep 2014 05:41 PM
theres better things u can do with your life..... like procreation
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ChillyFugitive2 is not online. ChillyFugitive2
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14 Sep 2014 05:45 PM
@awsome: That's debatable. If I enjoy an intellectual discussion of epistemology, then why not let me do the things I enjoy? You talk of procreation, but I'm not sure I am of age to do that.
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