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Re: Sent this to Xerolayne, I eagerly await his response:

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OmegaPowerful is not online. OmegaPowerful
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12 Sep 2014 07:33 PM
To Xerolayne -

I write to you today as a representative of the Let's Make a Deal subforum. I have many things I wish to ask and say. This especially regards to gameshows, giveaways, borrowing, profiting, etc.

To me - I find these services to be beneficial to the people, and especially gameshows, as often they are quite fun. Isn't roblox's mission to have fun? Is there any legitimate explanation as to WHY roblox considers these things to be scams? They do, in fact, use the roblox trading system. Of course, the only thing I DO happen to see as a possible reason for this is that it is a fail-safe rule to try and ward off scammers. But it does not serve the purpose at all, and you guys know this. There are certain people on LMaD who people know to be legit and who people know to be scammers. We will always have these people.

The legit people often host gameshows, giveaways, and often borrow items and profit items too. Yet, it is these people, myself included, who get the 14 day bans and terminations for doing nothing wrong. We returned the items in some cases, and in others we DONATED to someone. Yet we get the punishment.

Meanwhile, there are scammers that run a muck on LMaD and they never get moderated as much as us rich, legit people do. One person scammed enough to get him to Empyreus+Darkheart+, and then he broke ANOTHER rule by selling it for real life currency. He scammed others to get thousands of dollars in real life, without using DevEx. Nothing was ever done about it.

I once let my friend borrow my CF, CWHP and CWS. Then, when he sent it back, I got a 14 day investigation for allegedly "scamming" those items back. There was no reason for the ban other than that I "scammed." When I asked for why and explained the situation, the customer service that EVERYONE knows is terrible decided to not do anything and send me an automatic response. They then ignored my follow up. Now how is that fair? I've been the middleman for COUNTLESS deals that helped ELIMINATE scamming, yet I'm the one who is moderated. If you ban for these services, there will be even more scamming.

All I would really like is to have a nice response to this that explains/answers my concerns. I'm sure you have some insight into all of this (at least I hope) because customer service won't care and I doubt I'll easily be able to contact any other mods this easily.

Sincerely,
OmegaPowerful
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cco is not online. cco
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12 Sep 2014 07:34 PM
he'll just be like "lol"
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ghostriderdeath12 is not online. ghostriderdeath12
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12 Sep 2014 07:34 PM
Hi There  
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OmegaPowerful is not online. OmegaPowerful
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12 Sep 2014 07:35 PM
I sure hope that he is the player ambassador that he appears to be. Because no other moderator cares enough to discuss this with me/us.
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Renounced is not online. Renounced
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12 Sep 2014 07:35 PM
INDENT


5,494/50,000 R$; 105,000/1,000,000 TIX
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Civilly is not online. Civilly
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12 Sep 2014 07:36 PM
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OmegaPowerful is not online. OmegaPowerful
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12 Sep 2014 07:36 PM
CAnt indent on roblox silly head


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Expoltion is not online. Expoltion
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12 Sep 2014 07:37 PM
well
omega takes mature action
well done


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Yo911 is not online. Yo911
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12 Sep 2014 07:37 PM
Support.
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OmegaPowerful is not online. OmegaPowerful
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12 Sep 2014 07:38 PM
Also, if someone decides to bring this crap up:

"We don't allow user-run raffles or contests because it's very common that the prizes are never delivered. It's often a scam to get people to come to a place so the builder can earn tickets. Don't do it."


1. That is posted in ATR. BARELY any LMaDers check on ATR. Post it in the LMaD rules if you think it is so important.

2. More often than not, in fact 99% of the time, the prize IS delivered. What is so wrong with getting 20 tickets or so? It's not like they're worth anything anyways.
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Powmonkey is not online. Powmonkey
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12 Sep 2014 07:38 PM
@omega

yes you can.

- Powpower http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=145834476 -
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OmegaPowerful is not online. OmegaPowerful
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12 Sep 2014 07:39 PM
"well
omega takes mature action
well done"

I've been picketing for this for awhile.
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OmegaPowerful is not online. OmegaPowerful
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12 Sep 2014 07:40 PM
@pow

how do u indent

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Adieux1 is not online. Adieux1
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12 Sep 2014 07:41 PM
            Like this.


R$353,670/R$500,000
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hawkman8889 is not online. hawkman8889
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12 Sep 2014 07:41 PM
like he's gunna read all that due to how many people already want his attention. Hes probably gunna see Lmad and just skip over it.
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gordonrox24 is not online. gordonrox24
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12 Sep 2014 07:41 PM
"We don't allow user-run raffles or contests because it's very common that the prizes are never delivered. It's often a scam to get people to come to a place so the builder can earn tickets. Don't do it"

That is the rule. It doesn't matter that it is posted in ATR, those are the rules for ALL forums, including LMaD.

We understand that sometimes the prizes actually are awarded. Great. However we have no way to track that, endorse that, or to enforce when things go wrong. Unfortunately, they will more than likely remain against the rules.
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Expoltion is not online. Expoltion
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12 Sep 2014 07:42 PM
If it is considered rules for all forums, post it in all forums.


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HunterNoey is not online. HunterNoey
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12 Sep 2014 07:43 PM
he just told me to send my case in info@roblox :/
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OmegaPowerful is not online. OmegaPowerful
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12 Sep 2014 07:43 PM
@GOrdon

Yes yes I understand it is called a rule for all forums, HOWEVER, it is not being informed well enough to LMaD. Post it here if you really want to.

Also - with everything that roblox has been doing that has been ruining the economy - and with lack of fun things for us older, more mature members of roblox want to do - gameshows have become a necessity. Giveaways have become a source of entertainment. I don't really feel like running around with a knife for hours on end.
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Powmonkey is not online. Powmonkey
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12 Sep 2014 07:44 PM
@gordon

What if it's just "I'm feeling generous, post your sob stories"?

- Powpower http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=145834476 -
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InnovativeMind is not online. InnovativeMind
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12 Sep 2014 07:44 PM
Support, I'm sure if they wanted to put the effort in they could put in systems to make all of the things you said above un-scammable. If I myself developed a game that generates a surplus of money a year, I'd be sure to put it back into the game. Most of the time it's not the well rounded people being scammed. It's the people new to the game people who trust, this drives business away from the site. Especially when no action is taken against actual scammers. You could add gameshow options in games using the trade system i'm sure, the prize is put into a pool and put aside, sort of like trade currency when said show is over it is given to the winner. This being said i'm sure many other things could be put in to assist in lowering scamming rates.
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Adieux1 is not online. Adieux1
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12 Sep 2014 07:44 PM
@Gordon

Yeah sometimes it's a scam, but for what 10-30 tickets if the place is NBC? 200-400 tickets if it's BC?

With rates completely messed up in TC I don't see how that's something to worry about when the lowest limited costs aprox 1500 tickets.


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Yo911 is not online. Yo911
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12 Sep 2014 07:44 PM
@Gordon, if you don't mind me asking, why don't the mods ever address the topic of scammers on the forums. At least 1/5 of lmad scams(and they admit it too) and yet you guys do nothing about it. I've lost my star tailside and many other valuables to scammers. It's time for you to address this issue. It has been long overdue.
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Expoltion is not online. Expoltion
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12 Sep 2014 07:45 PM
Honestly, forums should have a minimum age.


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OmegaPowerful is not online. OmegaPowerful
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12 Sep 2014 07:45 PM
Yes, roblox, CREATE A GAMESHOW SYSTEM. A nonscammable one. It is easily creatable, but you guys don't care for the economy. You care for the devs only.
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