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TheCurrencyExchange is not online. TheCurrencyExchange
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12 Sep 2014 01:46 PM
TL;DR: Why should you be posting on something you didn't even read? If you can't bear long posts then go to a more casual forum than S&I.

This post was greatly helped by goldfishmemories. It started as a buy BC with R$ system and evolved into this. You can view the conversation here: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=145872025

Before I give my suggestion, I'm going to give my reasons to try and cut down on people who only read the suggestion and not the reasoning behind it then argue without knowing the full story.

Problem 1: Whether or not you will be able to publicise your contribution depends on paying and DevEx is being given to the wrong people.

In ROBLOX there are a lot of different groups of users. We have many different ways in which they're helping. These are some of the groups I've seen:

1. The "Paying Supporter"
A user who pays with real money to advance and get the gamepasses and hats they want. They don't have any intentions to get into game dev or profit, they don't have any intentions to make a contribution, many of them buy BC just for the hat and daily Robux not even thinking about dabbling in game dev, clothing creation or trading. Despite this, they are an important part of the community! They keep everything supported. Without them ROBLOX wouldn't have the money to run.

2. The "NBC Contributor"
Did you know that 75% of the EBR is NBC? Many of the NBC EBR members have AMAZING creations yet haven't received the recognition I think they deserve. They may not be able to purchase BC for various reasons but if ROBLOX were able to give them a hand getting onto the major league of devs they could be amazing.

3. The "Successful Developer"
These people are being paid what they deserve for their work and providing incentive for the "Paying Supporters" to pay more money. They are extremely helpful. As well as indirectly boosting profit they boost ROBLOX's reputation and the admins can feel proud the tools they gave these people let them create some of the most amazing things on ROBLOX.

The problem is that whether or not you can become a successful developer depends on if you're paying. Whether or not you pay isn't a good way to see if you have the potential to contribute a creation. The other problem is that we're getting bad people, the jaredvaldezes of today using the DevEx and making large sums of money for befouling ROBLOX causing economical and reputation wise damage.

Problem 2: Richer NBCs being stuck with their limiteds.
As a currency trader I have amassed loads of limiteds I want to sell off or trade and profit off of. Trading is brilliant for the economy because of all the R$ moving and all the marketplace fees removing the inflation. It also influences purchases because if a paying supporter wants my hat they'll buy Robux/BC to get it.

But I can't trade. The limiteds lie stagnant in my account. They don't remove inflation, they don't go to someone who wants them, they don't get worn, they just sit there gathering virtual dust.

What is my suggestion?
A system in which you can earn or buy additional privileges (purchases would be in R$).
Also, the DevEx would be removed from OBCs privileges (people who bought OBC before the update would keep the feature until their OBC ran out though) so that the only route to DevEx is to win the favour of the admins
Here are a few rough ideas for licenses:

Game Developer License (Requires pre-approval from admins and costs 1000 R$ per month)
Logo would be: Dominus Aureus
Gives you access to:
-A special hat
-DevEx
-Gamepasses
-Badges
-20 more active places

Group Leader License (500 R$ per month)
Logo would be: A castle
Gives you access to:
-A special hat
-Creating groups

Clothing Creator License (1,000 R$ per month)
Logo would be: A shirt
Gives you access to:
-A special hat
-Creating clothes
-Selling clothes

Trader License (2,000 R$ per month)
Logo would be: Domino Crown
Gives you access to:
-A hat saying "LMaD > All"
-Trading
-Selling limiteds

Since each of these licenses would cost R$ and only give the features specified, in order to make a profit you would have to end up bringing in more than the cost of your license.
If you buy a game dev license you need to make games to profit.
If you buy a group leader license you need to make groups to profit.
If you buy a clothing creator license you need to make clothes to profit
If you buy a trader license you need to sell your RAP gains (causing marketplace fees) to succeed.

Since more products will be on the market there will be more incentive for the paying supporters to buy BC. This will in turn cause more profit and help grow ROBLOX.

Thank you for reading my ridiculously long word wall. If you support, I'm glad to hear it! If you don't support I'm completely open to change as long as it makes sense.
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wesbes is not online. wesbes
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12 Sep 2014 02:27 PM
This sounds like a great idea!
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ILikeTrainzSir is not online. ILikeTrainzSir
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12 Sep 2014 02:31 PM
No support.


1. Everything involving EBR is invalid, not all devs are part of that group.
2. Whats the point of these "licenses" when there is BC.
4. Game dev license is completely unbalanced. This is basically TBC and OBC features that you can get for cheap. "Approval on admins" What?
5. You can make a game without BC.
3. Spam groups to get profit!
6. Spam places to get profit!



No, just no, there are so many faults in this, this is basically removing BC, and making it useless.

Please make sure your thread makes sense next time.
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TheCurrencyExchange is not online. TheCurrencyExchange
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12 Sep 2014 02:53 PM
1. The EBR is a prestigious group and I don't see why it's not fair to say everyone in that group is a developer. With a sample of almost 100 devs it's a good place to find talented builders and get statistics. The front page is an unfair place to draw statistics from because it's influenced by things other than game dev skill.

2. These licenses are here so that the NBC contributors that can't get BC can move up the league.

3. What? Creating groups costs you money and they only start to return their value when properly built up.

4. I didn't say "Approval on admins". Whatever misinterpretation was made, this is what I meant.
The game developer license would require you to be pre-approved by admins before you could buy it because of the power it has to return real world money.

5. Yes, that is true. But you're severely limited. You can't sell every kind of item and you get a mere 10% of the proceeds from what you DO sell. It's very difficult for NBCs to get onto the major league no matter how talented if they can't afford their ad campaigns. This would turn the "NBC contributors" into major league devs

6. Well, you'd have to spam places that get around 16,000 random visits, contribute something worthwhile or get seriously lucky with gamepasses AND impress the admins before even getting the opportunity to do so.


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ILikeTrainzSir is not online. ILikeTrainzSir
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12 Sep 2014 02:59 PM
1. I think you misread.

2. Yes...NBC members can easily make 1000 robux in a few days... more like a few months...

3. You never specified, so I asked. Also, "built up"? 100 members?

4. Why does an admin have to approve a game. Just seems kindof pointless.

5. You still get tix per visit. You don't need VIP/Admin at the start of your game's launch. If a player REALLY cared that much about making a game, she/he would get BC for a month. also, you only need a few ads to get your game somewhat popular. If your game is really good enough, it will suffice.

6. "impress the admins" Oh I can just imagine the bias.
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TheCurrencyExchange is not online. TheCurrencyExchange
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12 Sep 2014 03:18 PM
1. Misread what? This is the point I was combatting: "Everything involving EBR is invalid, not all devs are part of that group." Either admit defeat over that point or provide a reason it's true.

2. The prices are just rough ideas. It's up to ROBLOX what price to put on each license.

3. I never specified what?

4. Any other system will have loopholes. Likes? Like bot. Faves? Fave bot. Visits? Fake games get a lot of those. Profit? They get a lot of that too. The one thing they don't get is respect from the admins.

5. This wouldn't be for the game's launch. If it had impressed the admins then the developer license would become available to the developer and they could add passes and such to further their game and get paid for their work.

6. Admins would have no reason to be biased. Even if they liked one dev more than another they can both have the license.

If you want to continue this debate then do it via PM or party. It's spamming the forum.


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12 Sep 2014 06:29 PM
Bump.


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12 Sep 2014 11:09 PM
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13 Sep 2014 07:56 AM
bump, again


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goldfishmemories is not online. goldfishmemories
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13 Sep 2014 01:52 PM
NL;ER
[Not Long; Easy Read]

Support! It's really come together. The hat is a nice touch, but would cost a little money to develop.

@ILikeTrainzsir

Did you read our conversation? We did think through this. And why are you being so destructive? Can't you try and better it? It's not like it doesn't have potential.

He isn't using BC because it is a player purchase. It is released to thousands upon thousands of players and that being the qualification makes the staff easily lose control about who's taking out what.

You're doing something for a company and getting paid. Hm, sounds like a job. Job providers always meet or talk with who they're hiring. They also need to know exactly who they're paying. Or else they have an unspecified quantity of people who can just take their own payment at will. ROBLOX can easily get robbed blind if they don't legitimately hire, or in this case license the people working for them.

The current DevEx:
1. Is too impersonal, which leaves everyone in the dark. Like a freaking d r * g deal.
2. Requires a direct purchase, which leaves many successful, but hopelessly NBC players stuck. Don't you think they deserve a chance?

I think his intentions are pure and fair. Why don't you help him instead trying to shut him down, maybe.
People are so destructive nowadays...

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nathan15051 is not online. nathan15051
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13 Sep 2014 02:16 PM
The special license for DevEx is OK, no more (loleris & co.) junk on front page
The problem is. The group, clothing and trader license. No, just no. I dont want to pay 500 ROBUX a month just to keep up my small little group. Abd same for trading or selling, These should be still kept as BC BETA, no matter how much you argue.






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goldfishmemories is not online. goldfishmemories
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13 Sep 2014 02:28 PM
@nathan15051

They're all licenses for using the DevEx.
You can still make clothes and groups without the license, but you need the license to trade group funds and clothing profits into real life money with the DevEx.
Buying the license also permanently gives you the privilege I think. Or until you lose BC or your license.
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nathan15051 is not online. nathan15051
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13 Sep 2014 02:59 PM
@Goldfish

aah ok. so i can still own stuff, sell trade, but for profit via DevEx i need license. ok.
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14 Sep 2014 11:42 AM
nl;er

Support!
goldfishmemories brought me here
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14 Sep 2014 05:00 PM
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14 Sep 2014 05:34 PM
Idiot, put something useful in TL;DR not something offensive to people who may not have time to read it. I don't even want to read it after that TL;DR. No support.

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14 Sep 2014 05:48 PM
WNTS

Are you finished with those errands?
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MrPhelps is online. MrPhelps
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14 Sep 2014 05:52 PM
Not a bad idea, actually.






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14 Sep 2014 06:00 PM
What's the point of DevEx if they're taking money AWAY from you?

However, I do support ROBLOX providing help to NBC developers.
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14 Sep 2014 06:06 PM
@Cool, if you don't have time to read posts then you're a bad S&Ier. Your goal when writing your suggestion is to make people see something the way you see it so they understand and can post relevant criticisms or be convinced and support. It's impossible, especially in a suggestion of this complexity to do it in one line.

@Skip, there are small elements of WNTS but it's used as merely a guideline. If you're posting a typical riot asking for NBC rights then that's bad but I doubt anyone's ever posted this before and it needs consideration.

@Thunder, I don't think I quite understand what you mean by them taking money away from you. Please elaborate?


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reg85 is not online. reg85
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14 Sep 2014 06:25 PM
No support we arent all rich to pay monthly robux fees...even tough there is those scammers and copiers NOT ONE AT ALL AND IM NOT JOKING ONE AT ALL HAS BEEN DELETED FOR COPYING.(jared wasnt banned for copying) I bet mods even read the reports about copiers and still dont care I think the mods dont care plus have you seen the players even tho its a false title they continue to play it so basically enjoying it
(on most yes its true)
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14 Sep 2014 07:02 PM
Opened up a party chat with reg, after ignoring what I said multiple times "No privileges will be revoked from anyone except the DevEx from OBC, the license system will merely make it possible for NBC to get BC privileges" "But I want to make groups without paying ridiculous amounts of Robux!"

No rights will be changed except for DevEx being removed from OBC with the only path to it being the dev license because whether or not you paid shouldn't decide whether or not you count as a dev.


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MrPhelps is online. MrPhelps
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14 Sep 2014 08:51 PM
Here's the problem:

In the original post, it wasn't clear to people that this relates to getting profit from the DevEx. They thought that this meant that they would have to pay a monthly fee to make shirts or groups. That's what I thought you were implying as well until goldfish cleared it up.






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solman123 is not online. solman123
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14 Sep 2014 09:14 PM
I'ma go ahead and support this.

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sovied is not online. sovied
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14 Sep 2014 09:20 PM
No Support. Paying for groups? No way. The community would be outraged because of this.

Check out my Youtube account! https://www.youtube.com/user/soviedRBLX
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