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Re: why does america allow guns to the public

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trisrock2 is not online. trisrock2
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09 Sep 2014 03:28 PM
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Scyblocks is not online. Scyblocks
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09 Sep 2014 03:41 PM
The reason America has school shootings is because mentally unstable people are no

longer locked up and treated like they should be.

The UK had guns until the 1990s and when they banned them murder rates went up

tremendously.
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MikhailKralevich is not online. MikhailKralevich
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09 Sep 2014 03:52 PM
We have guns because it's in the constitution.

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Meaning, we own guns, and should the security of a Free State is in danger, we use them.
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StormAtlas is not online. StormAtlas
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09 Sep 2014 04:33 PM
"well regulated"
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Zech9005 is not online. Zech9005
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09 Sep 2014 05:11 PM
There was a story not too long ago of a guy that went into a store and started stabbing people at random, there was an older man with a gun who got the guy to stop and held him there till the police came.

That's why we have guns.
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Plexahedron is not online. Plexahedron
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09 Sep 2014 06:04 PM
We have guns because people don't realize they are weapons, think their toys to shoot clay pigeons and innocent people in the head with.
Jk, that was a little too overdramatic.
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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09 Sep 2014 07:18 PM
"There was a story not too long ago of a guy that went into a store and started stabbing people at random, there was an older man with a gun who got the guy to stop and held him there till the police came."
See, that's an example of why we should not have guns, we're lucky that the guy was not shot, because the older man thought he was prosecutor, judge, and jury, like most conservatives with guns.
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GESTROW is not online. GESTROW
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09 Sep 2014 07:22 PM
2nd amendment, brah. The day that we allow our rights to be taken away because of fear is the day that this stops being a democracy, though that probably happened, (not sure whose quote that is btw)
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PlayfulDog is not online. PlayfulDog
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09 Sep 2014 07:23 PM
@above
Are you trying to troll? This man was defending the INTERESTS of the public. If someone was stabbing somebody, would you just say, "Go ahead and kill everyone, I'm not in a position to kill you" if you had a gun on you?
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PlayfulDog is not online. PlayfulDog
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09 Sep 2014 07:24 PM
oops, sorry above,
ment julian
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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09 Sep 2014 07:25 PM
"2nd amendment, brah. The day that we allow our rights to be taken away because of fear is the day that this stops being a democracy, though that probably happened, (not sure whose quote that is btw)"
You're kidding right? They don't say "Rights to bear murderous weapons meant only for killing animals and people" it says "Rights to bear arms." That's the worst argument for anti gun control, also, gun control doesn't just restrict all your weapons, only some, such as automatic weapons and pistols.
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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09 Sep 2014 07:26 PM
"Are you trying to troll? This man was defending the INTERESTS of the public. If someone was stabbing somebody, would you just say, "Go ahead and kill everyone, I'm not in a position to kill you" if you had a gun on you?"
I'm not trying to troll, but I'm saying that it's not a great thing to just kill someone because they're doing something terrible.
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PlayfulDog is not online. PlayfulDog
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09 Sep 2014 07:28 PM
And why not? Isn't humanity better off with this persons blood off the earth?
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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09 Sep 2014 07:33 PM
"And why not? Isn't humanity better off with this persons blood off the earth?"
So you're saying that if someone is mentally diseased, and is unstable at times, you should immediately kill them when the illness is found out. If someone is mentally unstable all the time, we should just blow their brains out. You're saying humanity will be better with blood on the earth, instead of in his body?
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StormAtlas is not online. StormAtlas
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09 Sep 2014 07:33 PM
"Interests of the public"

This is subjective as many people probably do not see shooting at criminals in revenge as "interests of the public".
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IridiumFlare is not online. IridiumFlare
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09 Sep 2014 07:34 PM
The Supreme Court says it's an individual right. Even if it required a militia, the militia acts say the militia is all able bodied males aged 18-45.
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Scyblocks is not online. Scyblocks
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09 Sep 2014 08:17 PM
@Julian. Who said anything about killing the guy with the knife.

Shoot the arm he's holding the knife with and if he tries to run shoot his leg.
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lroufaclan is not online. lroufaclan
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09 Sep 2014 08:28 PM
Gun control wouldn't effect bad people. If they're bad anyways, they'll just break the rules even more.
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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09 Sep 2014 08:28 PM
That's what a sensible person would do, but how many sensible people are there?
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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09 Sep 2014 08:36 PM
my post above is for scy
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Scyblocks is not online. Scyblocks
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09 Sep 2014 08:42 PM
A differently constructed society would favor sensibility and intelligence.

Many things to blame for the lack of that nowadays.
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IridiumFlare is not online. IridiumFlare
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09 Sep 2014 09:03 PM
Using a firearm (lethal force) in a nonlethal manner shows there was no need to escalate to deadly force and allows charges to be pressed against you and lawsuits.
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Scyblocks is not online. Scyblocks
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09 Sep 2014 09:04 PM
Shooting someone in the head can cause charges to be pressed as well.
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Zech9005 is not online. Zech9005
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09 Sep 2014 09:15 PM
The fact that someone here is actually trying to defend the guy running around with a knife as a reason not to have guns is pretty ridiculous.

You go into a store where a MADMAN is running around STABBING and KILLING innocent people, you're just gonna walk out and say "Welp hope the police get here soon"

I can't follow the logic on that at all.
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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09 Sep 2014 09:22 PM
Call 911, it's not your place to take the police's place.
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