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Re: The NFL could have just made a ton of money

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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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09 Sep 2014 04:06 PM
By selling the Bills to an owner that would move the team out of the city
But it's the NFL so what do I expect
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hockeydude026 is not online. hockeydude026
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09 Sep 2014 04:07 PM
You are clueless.
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DeAngeloWilliams34 is not online. DeAngeloWilliams34
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09 Sep 2014 04:11 PM
the toronto group wasn't gonna win the big anyways
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XJeffXNeroXPPV1 is not online. XJeffXNeroXPPV1
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09 Sep 2014 04:11 PM
nfl yeah.
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DeAngeloWilliams34 is not online. DeAngeloWilliams34
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09 Sep 2014 04:11 PM
*the bid
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hockeydude026 is not online. hockeydude026
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09 Sep 2014 04:11 PM
>Canada
>Football
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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09 Sep 2014 04:11 PM
No you are

Do you know how marketing and profit works?
Let me simplify it for you

Toronto $$$$$ > Buffalo $$$$$
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hockeydude026 is not online. hockeydude026
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09 Sep 2014 04:13 PM
We have a fan base
But you've never been to buffalo/too stupid to notice.
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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09 Sep 2014 04:16 PM
Your fan base isn't relevant
You're too ignorant to realize that professional sports isn't all about how many people show up in the stands
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hockeydude026 is not online. hockeydude026
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09 Sep 2014 04:16 PM
Ok so fan bases are now irrelevant?
That makes so much sense.
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doctorgonzo is not online. doctorgonzo
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09 Sep 2014 04:19 PM
except that

1. canada has higher taxes
2. it's harder to get public funding for stadiums in canada
3. the canadian market is not guaranteed, whereas buffalo is a loyal market (especially considering the bills suck, that is something)


they wouldn't have made money leaving buffalo. the NFL has left cities before, and it always takes a long time to work out. the bills are a team that is supported by those who have been loyal enough to support a team that hasn't gone to the playoffs in 16 years. that is a rare type of loyalty you can't just pick up and place somewhere else
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doctorgonzo is not online. doctorgonzo
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09 Sep 2014 04:21 PM
"You're too ignorant to realize that professional sports isn't all about how many people show up in the stands"

lol what

this is how teams make most of their money. why do you think the teams who are always threatening to relocate are the ones that struggle with attendance?
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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09 Sep 2014 04:22 PM
You're waaaay too stupid to argue with
Everything is about money
Toronto has a MUCH bigger market than Buffalo which would mean increased revenues within that region
Toronto is also in an entirely different country which would mean a new TV contract worth billions of dollars
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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09 Sep 2014 04:22 PM
"this is how teams make most of their money. why do you think the teams who are always threatening to relocate are the ones that struggle with attendance?"

I' not talking about the team making money I'm talking about the league making money
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09 Sep 2014 04:23 PM
and a bigger TV market.

Im gonna be a pro wrestler Im already in a school - CODRampage
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hockeydude026 is not online. hockeydude026
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09 Sep 2014 04:23 PM
You are a new definition of idiocy.
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doctorgonzo is not online. doctorgonzo
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09 Sep 2014 04:26 PM
"You're waaaay too stupid to argue with"

he's actually right in this scenario

"Everything is about money"

hmmmmm

"Toronto has a MUCH bigger market than Buffalo which would mean increased revenues within that region"

1. then how come there is no team in los angeles, london, paris, beijing, india, etc etc. those are all much bigger markets than buffalo. everything is about money
2. the bills already have a significant number of fans in toronto. why alienate all of western new york when you can have both fanbases at the same time?


"Toronto is also in an entirely different country which would mean a new TV contract worth billions of dollars"

which would piss off everyone in canada who likes getting a variety of games every week. oh and also the blackouts which would inevitably happen. that's something people don't like either
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doctorgonzo is not online. doctorgonzo
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09 Sep 2014 04:27 PM
"I' not talking about the team making money I'm talking about the league making money"

the league is a non profit organization (somehow). it doesn't make any money besides salaries for the executives. all television money is redistributed to the teams
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DeAngeloWilliams34 is not online. DeAngeloWilliams34
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09 Sep 2014 04:27 PM
how is it a non profit organization that doesnt make sense
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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09 Sep 2014 04:28 PM
"the league is a non profit organization"


How is that even possible
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doctorgonzo is not online. doctorgonzo
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09 Sep 2014 04:29 PM
and for those who say toronto is a bigger TV market, hockey night in canada (which the leafs are always on) only draws about 2-4 million people. canadians don't watch as much TV as americans, there is no money in the canadian TV market
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doctorgonzo is not online. doctorgonzo
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09 Sep 2014 04:31 PM
"how is it a non profit organization that doesnt make sense"
"How is that even possible"

they are just an organization for the teams. the teams make the profit, the league doesn't.
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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09 Sep 2014 04:34 PM
@tato

There's less than 200,000 NFL viewers in the Buffalo market so I would say anything around that range would be an upgrade lol
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hockeydude026 is not online. hockeydude026
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09 Sep 2014 04:34 PM
BS
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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09 Sep 2014 04:35 PM
also, a TV contract with CBC or something like that would be worth around $3 billion just like the other contracts NFL has with CBS, NBC, or Fox regardless of who it pisses off (like the NFL cares anyway)
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