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Re: why are schools so into chromebooks/google

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dropboxpro is not online. dropboxpro
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07 Sep 2014 12:41 AM
teaching kids to use new emerging technologies instead of sticking to the decades old enterprise paradigm would be better
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18cwatford is not online. 18cwatford
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07 Sep 2014 12:41 AM
They trust google.

Don't forget about google for world domination.
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PotatoWeasel is not online. PotatoWeasel
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07 Sep 2014 12:42 AM
They're cheap, fast, and do everything you need for school.
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wazap is not online. wazap
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07 Sep 2014 12:42 AM
>cheap
>no preloaded games
>chrome
>hard to download things on

idk whats so bad about them
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PotatoWeasel is not online. PotatoWeasel
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07 Sep 2014 12:45 AM
Hard to download things? You can just press Ctrl+S and download something.
Also, it's actually easier to install programs.
You can just click the app drawer and type in something in the search, and it will show an app to install, that you can install by pressing 1 button.
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dropboxpro is not online. dropboxpro
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07 Sep 2014 12:45 AM
"They're cheap, fast, and do everything you need for school."

1. google reads everything used on google/through google services

2. google reserves the right to use any material published/written/etc with google to use/distribute/modify/etc the works

3. selling kids into the google ad project? lol nah

">chrome"

there's the problem
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Crawfly is not online. Crawfly
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07 Sep 2014 12:45 AM
heartstrings is that you
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dropboxpro is not online. dropboxpro
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07 Sep 2014 12:45 AM
"heartstrings is that you"

yes
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wazap is not online. wazap
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07 Sep 2014 12:46 AM
I mean as its an entirely new OS
so its hard to download premade things (LIKE GAMES)
on chromebook.
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Crawfly is not online. Crawfly
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07 Sep 2014 12:46 AM
oh man it's been so long
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PotatoWeasel is not online. PotatoWeasel
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07 Sep 2014 01:02 AM
>"1. google reads everything used on google/through google services"

No. Billions of people use Google. There isn't enough time in the lifetimes of all the Google employees combined to read what everyone does.

>"2. google reserves the right to use any material published/written/etc with google to use/distribute/modify/etc the works"

This is simply false. If you have an essay in, let's say, Google Drive, and they tried to publish it themselves, they are simply breaking the law.

Google can't do that. That's blatantly a lie.

>"3. selling kids into the google ad project? lol nah"

I have yet to see a single ad since I've gotten my Chromebook.
There are no more ads than on any other OS. I just installed Adblock and I see none on any website.

>"I mean as its an entirely new OS
so its hard to download premade things (LIKE GAMES)
on chromebook."

True. There are a few native games for Chrome OS, but they're not that great.
Currently, I'd only recommend Chrome OS to people who want a good netbook.
They're cheap, fast, do everything you need for a good netbook, are very secure, and some, like mine, can even connect to 3G to have internet anywhere.

They're not good gaming machines. If you're looking for a laptop that could game, you probably shouldn't be buying a $200 laptop in the first place. You'd probably want a more powerful Windows laptop for that.

But if you're looking for a netbook, they're definitely your best option.
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dropboxpro is not online. dropboxpro
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07 Sep 2014 01:05 AM
"No. Billions of people use Google. There isn't enough time in the lifetimes of all the Google employees combined to read what everyone does."

appeal to ignorance

"This is simply false. If you have an essay in, let's say, Google Drive, and they tried to publish it themselves, they are simply breaking the law. "

read the ToS then come back

"I have yet to see a single ad since I've gotten my Chromebook."

google admits to scanning everything you do on Google to target you for ads
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IridiumFlare is not online. IridiumFlare
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07 Sep 2014 01:12 AM
I love me some botnetOS.
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PotatoWeasel is not online. PotatoWeasel
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07 Sep 2014 01:14 AM
>"appeal to ignorance"

Do you mean "argument from ignorance"?
An argument from ignorance is when you claim, because we don't know something, that we can insert something into its place.

Such as,

A: God exists.
B: How do you know that?
A: Prove he doesn't.

My claim is simply logic.

p: Billions of people use Google.
q: There are limited Google employees.
r: Google reads what all its users do.

p∧q⇒¬r

That's my argument.
p∧q⇒¬r

That's it.

>"read the ToS then come back"

Show me in the ToS where it says Google can publish the stuff you put in Google Drive.
And show me a single case where this has happened.

>"google admits to scanning everything you do on Google to target you for ads"

Google has robots that record your searches and run them through algorithms to make ads more suitable for you.

That's nowhere near close to "reading everything you do".

A human never takes a look at your Google searches.

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Luigi463 is not online. Luigi463
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07 Sep 2014 01:14 AM
@dropbox

Dropbox. You may be right... But chrome books aren't computers. They are a 300 web browser. It's expected to just do. No viruses or games. It's just supposed to do Web browser things.

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PotatoWeasel is not online. PotatoWeasel
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07 Sep 2014 01:18 AM
>"Dropbox. You may be right... But chrome books aren't computers. They are a 300 web browser. It's expected to just do. No viruses or games. It's just supposed to do Web browser things. "

It has games, and the operating system can do everything the Windows or OSX operating systems can do.

You can install native games that run offline in their individual windows on it just like any other OS.
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IridiumFlare is not online. IridiumFlare
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07 Sep 2014 01:19 AM
It barely has any support and I'd rather not have everything I do be a part of Google's data collection.
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PotatoWeasel is not online. PotatoWeasel
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07 Sep 2014 01:21 AM
True. Chromebooks don't have very good support. Google does a terrible job at marketing it. They market the Chromebook as a netbook. It's a good netbook, but it'll never be more than a good netbook because they don't market it as anything else.
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Luigi463 is not online. Luigi463
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07 Sep 2014 02:21 PM
It would be great for Schools, Enterprise usage, and Emulation while the government hunts you down.
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