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Re: The "American Dream" Causes Discrimination and Hatred

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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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04 Sep 2014 11:42 AM
In America, they say "If you're good, and work hard, you'll have success!" This is the American dream, but that's a completely false statement. See, when most Americans look at poverty, they think "Oh, those people deserve that because they're not good people and they aren't working hard," all because of this statement. This has separated the classes in America more than they would be without it. Most impoverished people are hard workers and good people, but because of this "Dream" people think worse of them.
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jamkid12 is not online. jamkid12
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04 Sep 2014 11:56 AM
I was born poor, life is easy you suck.
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link6249 is not online. link6249
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04 Sep 2014 12:00 PM
are you serious or are you mocking ssempre?
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Zech9005 is not online. Zech9005
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04 Sep 2014 12:02 PM
Barrack Obama was poor and didn't even have a Father, he's now the President of the United States. It's all about making the right choices and playing your cards right.
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bobos22 is not online. bobos22
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04 Sep 2014 12:05 PM
you dont need to be rich to be happy
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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04 Sep 2014 12:07 PM
I'm not saying that it's terrible to be poor, but it's not great. I'm saying that people seem to think that poor people are bad people, because they're poor.
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Zech9005 is not online. Zech9005
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04 Sep 2014 12:11 PM
I see you're point, but there are always people who are going to see it that way. I work in a poor area, and I respect the people who live in that area because they're actually nicer than the middle class people where I live. However at the same time I still have to be careful WHO im nice to because there are plenty of drug addicts in the same area.

The bad will always outweigh the good, that's why lower income areas always get a bad rap. That being said however, lower income areas DO infact lead to having higher crime rates.
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link6249 is not online. link6249
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04 Sep 2014 12:11 PM
"people"

No, just the old conservative fatso's that were born with spoon in hand, I guess.
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Zech9005 is not online. Zech9005
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04 Sep 2014 12:13 PM
Not at all, Suburban soccer moms as an example.

The thought that poor people are bad people comes from ignorance, not experience.
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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04 Sep 2014 12:20 PM
Some upper-middle class people avoid poor areas at all costs. It's kind of funny. I have these rich friends, and his parents were driving us somewhere and I said we should take a route and they said "Uh... I'm sorry, we try not to go through there. Bad things happen there."
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Zech9005 is not online. Zech9005
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04 Sep 2014 12:25 PM
Some people simply aren't comfortable with high crime rate areas, there's nothing wrong with that.
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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04 Sep 2014 12:27 PM
"Some people simply aren't comfortable with high crime rate areas, there's nothing wrong with that."
The thing was, it was not a place with a terribly high crime rate. It was just a little bit lower class neighborhood.
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Zech9005 is not online. Zech9005
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04 Sep 2014 12:33 PM
Some people are sheltered their whole lives, you can't change how they think. Now if they're going around saying "Burn the poor people!" Then, well then there's a problem.

However a middle class sheltered family isn't causing harm by not driving through a lower class area.
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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04 Sep 2014 12:38 PM
"However a middle class sheltered family isn't causing harm by not driving through a lower class area."
Yeah, I just found it rather funny. Isn't humanity just hilarious?
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link6249 is not online. link6249
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04 Sep 2014 12:39 PM
what zech said

The predispositions of people can only change with a traumatic or huge event with a big impact in their lives.
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Zech9005 is not online. Zech9005
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04 Sep 2014 12:40 PM
To a point, yeah.
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PlayfulDog is not online. PlayfulDog
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04 Sep 2014 01:35 PM
Zech actually said something true!
Yes, not going through a area is completely fine. I tend to avoid a lower class neghiboorhood called Florence in my town. It's extreme north, even though it is safe, it makes me uncomfortable.
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Zech9005 is not online. Zech9005
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04 Sep 2014 01:37 PM
Not even gonna indulge that..
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noswad0208 is not online. noswad0208
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04 Sep 2014 02:36 PM
"Barrack Obama was poor and didn't even have a Father, he's now the President of the United States. It's all about making the right choices and playing your cards right."

duh

everyone born in kenya is poor
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kingdestroyah is not online. kingdestroyah
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04 Sep 2014 02:53 PM
So having social classes causes classism?
What a shock.
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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04 Sep 2014 04:18 PM
And that's why we should all be communists.
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IridiumFlare is not online. IridiumFlare
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04 Sep 2014 04:47 PM
Not all poor people are hard workers. I know a woman who stays unemployed to get that sweet welfare money.
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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04 Sep 2014 05:52 PM
"Not all poor people are hard workers. I know a woman who stays unemployed to get that sweet welfare money."
Yeah, but most have to work hard.
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TheKentuckian is not online. TheKentuckian
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04 Sep 2014 06:24 PM
And that's why we should all be communists.
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Yes, let's make EVERYONE poor.
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JulianHallstrom is not online. JulianHallstrom
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04 Sep 2014 06:30 PM
"Yes, let's make EVERYONE poor."
Well at least nobody's in fear of eachother
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