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Re: [://STYGIAN:] Warning to The Cryonix Empire
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| 26 Aug 2014 08:18 PM |
When we agreed upon war, SR thought we would be getting a good challenge from a good clan. How wrong have we been. For the first few days, you raided heavily when we only managed 4 to defenses and just squeezed in enough to make the raids go through. However, recently, you've dropped off entirely.
Don't give me that school crap either. We still get 10+ at trainings and get the same when we go to raid you, and it takes only half an hour for a response from a HR regarding us notifying you that we're at your base waiting for CE to show up.
These are some of the events that have occurred throughout this week in Stygian Redemption:
-Shock resignation of RadiantParadox, founder and leader of Stygian Redemption. -Heavily unpopular appointment of SR's new Chancellor, myself. -Almost entire new HiCOM and most veterans decide to leave SR. -Merger with Aelus.
However, through all those, activity has been highly boosted in SR and we're stronger than ever, even with school, CB and this recent lag spike on the website all heavily affecting the clan world.
So, why has CE stopped raiding us altogether? Along with that, today, we've waited half an hour for 5 CE to show up while we have 10+15 SR there ready to rumble. We message all online HR's to get men to CE and we still haven't gotten a reply. We party HR's of CE and they all decline.
We take that as refusal to defend and it will be tolerated no longer. When I first took over, we still defended against 25 CE while only managing 4 SR to defend. How is a clan that's got 430 more members not able to get 5 to defend their base or even raid us?
It's unacceptable. SR has gone through everything CE has gone through AND MORE and we still get members to events every day, wanting to raid and defend.
If CE don't start getting their crap sorted and actually act like a clan, we will be declaring victory on CE and we will be moving on from you. You don't like it? Start defending and start raiding more often then and this won't need to be addressed again. |
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Tasha5266
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| 26 Aug 2014 08:58 PM |
Alright, firstly I am inactive, however regardless of how long it takes us to defend {since we're offline mostly} we still defend and have not declined to defend, if you have I want screen shouts of us not defending {if we have reasons like we're going offline that's different}. I will raid you when I want to, we're up 2-1 so we have proven that we could win, we have defended each time and so on.
I'm gonna set down the law with you, we've raided you and stopped recently {mostly during school days} however that doesn't mean anything, we're up 2-1 doesn't mean we have to raid you every day and so on. If you threaten me with an auto win, I could care less we're up 2-1 and you have NOTHING to prove that your "auto win" is legit.
All you've done is complained and some of the raids we haven't defended were because of our base time rules which we've told you to follow twice if I recall. Now, if we're gonna go on the topic of defending then go ahead and tell me how instead of going to defend automatically, I believe around 2 times that we raided you guys went to "rally" to defend instead of going automatically, which is fine I don't got a complain but you're bringing your points up.
As for the school crap we have defended even if you had to wait a bit, I promise you during the weekends we will be defending within minutes and will be raiding more. Now to end this if you're gonna go ahead and threaten me to declare a win and "move on" then I want you to mention how you're losing, and how you claimed an auto win despite war terms {on the "admin abuse" raid} Yes you removed it after I spoke with you but it happened regardless, you just add wins based on your high ranks without the full story.
I won't be replying to arguments this was just my side of the story since you gave yours. |
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| 26 Aug 2014 08:58 PM |
SR is trash.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes. Together, we can stop this. |
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Tasha5266
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| 26 Aug 2014 09:02 PM |
| Oh almost forgot SR changed the score to 2-2 for no reason, and we didn't lose another defense, we've lost once yesterday making the score 2-1. Fix the score on your description, this is my warning to you I won't deal with auto wins from you, we have yet to complain on the forums but I don't mind what you do, however I got an issue with your auto wins. You continue your crap I'll do the same, that's it. |
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Tasha5266
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| 26 Aug 2014 09:15 PM |
| I forgot some stuff so I keep writing it as I go, it wasn't 4 SR vs 25 CE, you had like 7 some left/rage quit your high rank said that. As for you not tolerating it, it really doesn't rely on you, it's based on war terms. If we're not online or busy I'm not gonna defend, by busy we mean in real life, if we're on roblox we will defend obviously. If you have proof of high ranks declining for no reason they'll be taken care of, stop trying to control this war because it's annoying, we made the war terms and we will both follow them EXACTLY as they say it. |
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| 26 Aug 2014 09:42 PM |
Tasha, was 6 at first. then many left, yes. But we still defended. And it is 2-2. Read the war terms. Refusal to defend base and being ignored by all HRs. Ya I think that is a reason. I partied Prov, he declined. Etc of every SR HICOM messaging your HICOM, no answers. I do not care about your excuses or the past. We defended when SR was nothing but trash and dirt. Now you cannot defend when it becomes a fair fight? I could care less of this war and who wins. You should still defend.
Yes you won your 2 raids officially and fairly. (During the state of SRs death) but you still won them and I allowed them to be official even though we had 3-4 at the ending. You should be able to rack up 5 members no matter what the past has done, or said. SR is now ready to fight you fairly against all odds with equal numbers. Do not complain, nor gallant around like you're a big shot. You made fun of SRs death, now look at you.
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Tasha5266
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| 26 Aug 2014 10:00 PM |
I read the war terms, better said I wrote/typed them, refusing to defend isn't a win unless the clan stops all together {lets say the war goes inactive for 2 weeks with them refusing to defend completely and not raiding, which is not the case here}. Now, I also want proof of him declining your raid without a reason, Pro is always online {it says he's online but isn't actually online most of the time}.
The score is 2-1, I will ignore your auto wins, we got 5 CE that's how you got a raid win, no one is removing that raid win, I'm not making excuses, lol. You won a legit raid which made the score 2-1, however we're not accepting your auto wins which you guys have pulled twice now.
"All hrs" I doubt half the hrs were online and if we were then I'm sure they would have accepted, now I want pictures of us refusing to defend WITHOUT reason. Post them here or pm me which ever one is fine. By the way Avalixi is not able to defend since she's not an admin and an admin is needed to raid so asking her will NOT be refusal to defend. Your options are myself, Provelone, 11brayden, elementize, and nournot8.
You're allowed to raid any time within our rules make sure to read them first. Now, not sure if you were the guy who lead the raid which I was there and you had "penders" but can you please mention since I tried to tell your leader yesterday night how you brought allies to the CE base to raid as "penders," I just want you to mention that or whoever hosted that raid. TVE were the ones raiding, around 3-4 "PENDERS."
I've mentioned this before but want to mention it on this forum, you shouldn't have brought those allies I don't care what you consider them they weren't SR, I'm just stating this just for the record since you guys want to mention everything.
I always want you to mention on how you "rally" at your meadows to defend from our places while we wait for you guys to go defend, we have had issues with waiting for you in the past, it wasn't a big deal nor is it now but I'm mentioning since you want to mention things.
I am gonna give my high ranks permission to rally troops before we go to defend to counter what you do if you do it again, we will be defending, make sure you don't read that wrong.
As for your anti-pre flood script, I forgot about that I'm adding an anti-pre flood rule in the description for you guys, just wanted to mention that. If you consider yourself a fair fight for us that's fine, I don't recall making fun of you guys for being dead, you guys are obviously just desperate for cheap wins, but you can deny that too.
CE will be increasing raids, we will be taking screen shots of anything minor just so we can throw the crap you pull right back at you. I will not be declaring ONE auto win for a raid victory or war victory unless you do so, that's how I do things every raid score on my description were all actual raid wins, unlike you guys I don't rely on auto wins or cheap wins.
I know you have an argument for this, but I'm actually looking forward for your leader declaring an auto win just so I can do the same and move on, it really doesn't hurt us, it wouldn't be the first time either it happens to most clans.
Just another thing I want to mention is how you're hearing trying to claim auto wins but you go ahead and decline wars, that I find EXTREMELY funny, last I recall declining wars isn't allowed, but you go ahead and try to threaten people with auto wins when you're just trying to pick on clans you find weaker, however that obviously wasn't the case when you guys turned to crap and will eventually die with your hype.
Good night guys. |
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Tasha5266
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| 26 Aug 2014 10:05 PM |
| I hope Rad comes back as leader, I messaged Har what I wrote here but I also gave him a shorter version of this. So many clans come here and threaten with auto wins, lol. |
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| 27 Aug 2014 02:02 AM |
"Alright, firstly I am inactive, however regardless of how long it takes us to defend {since we're offline mostly} we still defend and have not declined to defend, if you have I want screen shouts of us not defending {if we have reasons like we're going offline that's different}. I will raid you when I want to, we're up 2-1 so we have proven that we could win, we have defended each time and so on."
I live in a completely different timezone to all my members, yet don't make that as an excuse to not raid and defend. You yourself haven't declined to defend, but your HiCOM certainly has (Provolone in particular).
When you raided, we were getting 4 to events yet we still defended from CE. Now that the activity has been improving, you've failed to show up at Styx. Why is that?
"I'm gonna set down the law with you, we've raided you and stopped recently {mostly during school days} however that doesn't mean anything,"
If a clan as small as SR can raid a clan as big as CE on a daily basis with all the things I've mentioned that has gone on within SR, it means a damn thing for sure if we can still raid you.
"we're up 2-1 doesn't mean we have to raid you every day and so on. If you threaten me with an auto win, I could care less we're up 2-1 and you have NOTHING to prove that your "auto win" is legit."
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we have proof of refusal to defend from the lack of responses from HR's regarding our notification to raid. And considering they were online the whole time we were at your base waiting, I would say that's refusal to defend.
"All you've done is complained and some of the raids we haven't defended were because of our base time rules which we've told you to follow twice if I recall."
I'm sorry. I'll tell the Minister of Education here in Australia to make it mandatory in schools to learn all US timezones.
"Now, if we're gonna go on the topic of defending then go ahead and tell me how instead of going to defend automatically, I believe around 2 times that we raided you guys went to "rally" to defend instead of going automatically, which is fine I don't got a complain but you're bringing your points up."
1. I don't care if you rally 50. If you're ready to defend, that's all that matters to me and the people in SR. However, I'm not going to stand around and do nothing when I along with the HiCOM have sent countless messages for half an hour to your damn HR's telling them that we're at their base ready to raid.
2. When we rallied, we still defended with the bare amount of people at our disposal at that time. Again, you want to rally before defending, I don't care. Actually showing up in the end to defend your base is all that counts.
"As for the school crap we have defended even if you had to wait a bit"
Well today sure was a different story then because Adolf. H had 1 more ball than CE had at your base. Also, again, school doesn't mean crap when it comes to raiding a clan as small as SR. "I promise you during the weekends we will be defending within minutes and will be raiding more."
I was promised constant raiding when this war began. Even with everything that has gone on, you've only raided twice.
"Now to end this if you're gonna go ahead and threaten me to declare a win and "move on" then I want you to mention how you're losing, and how you claimed an auto win despite war terms {on the "admin abuse" raid} Yes you removed it after I spoke with you but it happened regardless, you just add wins based on your high ranks without the full story."
1. We will be declaring a win and moving on if CE continually fail to show up to defend/raid against us. I can damn sure guarantee you that one. You were perfectly fine raiding a clan that could barely manage 4 people. Now that the scales are even, you've done crap.
2. I added that win due to the fact that we had 5 SR were at your base ready to raid, and it doesn't specify what happens when the numbers decrease after the raid begins.
3. My HiCOM are intelligent enough to read and respond to PM's from enemy HR's regarding impending raids. Your HiCOM obviously can't due to today's events.
"I won't be replying to arguments this was just my side of the story since you gave yours."
The only thing you'll have to reply to is the thread I'll be making with such joy when SR get that 15th win. |
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Sergus
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| 27 Aug 2014 02:05 AM |
Good luck with that.
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Those who study history are doomed to know it's repeating. |
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Zelvios
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| 27 Aug 2014 02:10 AM |
Another one of RadiantParadox tryhard clans. he'll just come up with another dumb clan lol'd
"Don't be a LMADER, be the best nerd you can ever be!" Zelvios l Zepris l King of C&G ^_^ |
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| 27 Aug 2014 05:17 AM |
"Another one of RadiantParadox tryhard clans. he'll just come up with another dumb clan lol'd"
i never knew i was radiant. you must know me more than i do.
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Tasha5266
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| 27 Aug 2014 10:24 AM |
Still waiting on that picture proof not words of us declining a defense without reason. Not sure if you read what I said but I stated that Provelone doesn't log out of his acc so it shows him online even though he isn't online. We have not declined any of your defenses without reason, even if we've made you wait for the 100th time.
I don't care what you find as an excuse, however you're not active during defenses it's mostly your high ranks, lets just put that out there. Numbers don't mean anything, stop using that as an excuse for us being active, we have school and lives, and I'm sure you do as well which is why we don't raid on weekdays most of the time.
You're fine with us rallying for a defense but then you say you hate waiting 30 minutes, make up your mind???? We've raided 4 times by the way 2/4 raid wins. I was fine raiding you before school if you recall, that's why I wanted to begin the war before Sunday if you recall we had that talk at my base because you wanted to move it back a day.
The only way you have a justified "auto win" as if we quit defending in general and raiding in general, we plan on raiding this weekend, I think I stated that somewhere. We also defended 2 days ago, so we've been defending, the only "refusal to defend" that you got is Provelone who is not online even if account says he is for the 100th time.
Your auto win for the admin abuse was unjustified didn't count, Avalixi was removed from admin, the auto win for the refusal to defend is a war term doesn't count, let alone you don't have proof. So remove it for the 100th time, if you keep it up there that's completely fine however I won't acknowledge that win and will ignore it all together.
I think I've said everything needed, it's 2-1, you can argue ALL you want, you have no justification for an auto win and you continue to pull cheap crap. |
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Tasha5266
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| 27 Aug 2014 12:22 PM |
The score is now 3-2 since you want to count defenses that aren't accepted. Arsious was messaged to defend when he was online as well as Demonslaves and Yrapix. Yrapix declined my raid around 5 minutes after, then after talking to him said he'd defend in 20 minutes I told him to defend "now" he did not. Your two other hrs were online and did not reply to my pm therefore declining my raid. Score is 3-2 since you're counting people not defending, thank you.
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| 27 Aug 2014 04:34 PM |
Tasha, lol no. We were all OFFLINE AT 12 AT NIGHT WHEN THEIR IS SCHOOL! So not 3-2. Stop your BS and deal with the tie 2-2. People actually have families that want them to get up in the morning at 5:30 and go to school. No way in hell any of us were up at 12 at night on ROBLOX. Get outta here. Tell me when you can make sense for once and not be butthurt.
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| 27 Aug 2014 04:40 PM |
| This is the point where both sides will either just end the war or call a win and move on. |
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| 27 Aug 2014 05:06 PM |
I hate this war. I was going to wait to come into HICOM after this war. Both sides are being stupid. Yes, my own clan SR and CE. I am SR Council but I have to agree both sides are acting of children on the forums. Tash, and Harle BOTH need to sit down and talk about the war PRIVATELY. Get it settled.
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| 27 Aug 2014 05:31 PM |
| Just end the war or work it out. |
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Tasha5266
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| 27 Aug 2014 08:51 PM |
So you're arguing that you have lives even though it said you were online? I said the exact same thing about Provelone being online because he leaves roblox on yet your auto win is because of that, so we cannot do the same thing you did? You and Arsious {if i spelled that right} were online and did not defend, you also had another hr who didn't defend, here's the pm; Ok I will attend in 20 minutes.
------------------------------ On 8/27/2014 at 12:04 PM, Tasha5266 wrote: Um, yes to defend, I mentioned CE wants to raid, lol.
------------------------------ On 8/27/2014 at 12:02 PM, Yrapix wrote: Oh a Defend.
------------------------------ On 8/27/2014 at 12:01 PM, Tasha5266 wrote: Any high rank is allowed to defend, you're a high rank, you're not allowed to decline a defense, so please go defend.
------------------------------ On 8/27/2014 at 12:00 PM, Yrapix wrote: If you wanna raid us, Ask a Council member or the Leader.
------------------------------ On 8/27/2014 at 11:59 AM, Tasha5266 wrote: We're gonna raid when you get 6 SR there, we can't flood due to the anti-preflood script. So get some SR there then we'll go.
------------------------------ On 8/27/2014 at 11:58 AM, Yrapix wrote: Wait is there a raid going on?
------------------------------ On 8/27/2014 at 11:57 AM, Tasha5266 wrote: You're a high rank/admin you should be able to defend, and the other hrs won't answer my pms.
------------------------------ On 8/27/2014 at 11:56 AM, Yrapix wrote: It's not my choice ask the Leader or someone is the Council if you wanna raid.
------------------------------ On 8/27/2014 at 11:55 AM, Tasha5266 wrote: CE wants to raid SR, can you go defend?
Note he never ended up defending and instead came to my rally and told me he sent a trade request {not sure why}. I am keeping my win, he was online and didn't defend as told, that's final I don't care about whatever reply you post, I'll stick to your level.
By the way don't use the school excuse like your leader said, that's a bad excuse, please defend next time it said you were online and you didn't reply to my pm along with two other hrs, thanks.
This is going to end with both sides with an auto win but I don't care at this point because I know rightfully we're up 2-1 and unlike you I can accept losing a raid and not declare auto wins until the other side does it. We're on the opposite sides so we're gonna defend our side however I know for a fact we're up 2-1 and your cheap ways of getting "wins" as you call them will back fire right back at you.
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Tasha5266
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| 27 Aug 2014 08:55 PM |
Demon, by the way I am acting childish I COMPLETE agree. However, I didn't make this forum, I didn't declare an auto win first, I have very small complaints up until now. Here's a fact your leader hates losing and he trys to act like the bigger man and mature but he really isn't.
From all the wars I've had recently CE hasn't had any issues, we war SR now we have 30 issues, CL isn't even this bad, we've had flaming and so on but they have been completely fair with war terms and haven't pulled this crap.
I will end the war with a tie if Harle agrees just to stop this crap, and I will not look back at SR EVER as I have no intention of doing so. This is an OPTION to end the war as a tie/draw and both sides move on, if it isn't a draw I'm sticking by our 3-2/2-1 score it's really up to you guys, I could care less. |
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