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| 25 Jun 2014 11:46 PM |
I am leaving replies open so group members can leave an opinion. If I realize what I’ve done is wrong, he will be let back in. All the messages I show are 100% real, I will post screenshots if required. I’m asking for the groups opinion on what I should do. Does he deserve his rank back of 3IC? Please read this all before deciding. Thanks.
Sidhom has been very active with EPS, which I have appreciation for. He’s picked back up the activity, which is awesome. I will admit that at times I have been slightly rough on him. He got on my nerves on multiple occasions, and I’ve tried my best to maintain my cool. Today, he hosted a training at a Free Modelled Place he made called “Group Meeting Stuff”. This is unprofessional, and I told him to correct this twice. No response. I’ve told him many times some of the stuff he does and says is quite unnecessary. Not very often do I receive a response. I’ll try my best to not be too prejudice, but he commands and bosses people around. For some of the members who may not realize being a HR or let alone an owner of a group with 2300 members isn’t a big deal, they may think this is fine. Our more experienced members will take this as an insult. It gives us a bad image and may hinder our ability to gain more hardened members. I sent him a message today asking him to simply correct these things for his rank back. Here it is;
Ahem... Highdraulix wrote at 6/25/2014 8:54:11 PM:
For the time being, I am ranking you back down to Trainer. I appreciate everything you are doing and how incredibly active you’ve been with the group, but there’s some things you’re doing wrong that give you and our group a bad image;
-You need to improve your grammar. Please use punctuation.
-You need to host trainings in uniform.
-You need to develop better people skills.
Most importantly, you’re WAY in over your head with power. You boss people around. You need to learn how to lead people instead of command them. You also lack common sense. Common sense is not playing a 15 second loop of “I’m Not Afraid” during a training. Common sense is not hosting a meeting at a free modelled place called “Group Meeting Stuff”. A lot of people in the group have complained to be annoyed by you, and I hope you can fix this.
Improve on these things and I’ll gladly give your rank back. Thanks :) ______________________
To me this seems fair. Well… here are the responses I received from him, numbered for later reference;
1. :( I didn't know those rules! I hosted all the wars! Listen up!!! IF I HAVE YOU TO GET UP IN MY MIND! YOUR JEALOUS!! IF YOU THINK I AM TAKING OVER YOU I AM NOT! IF YOU THINK I HAVE BAD SKILLS I AM NOT!! IF YOU THINK THAT I DIDNT MAKE THAT PLACE I DID YOU UNDERSTAND! YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG! QUIT BEING JEALOUS! I ONLY MADE YOU SAY THE SPEECH FOR THE UPDATE BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT YOU AND NOW YOUR TREATING ME LIKE THIS! YOU DONT EVEN WEAR THE GROUP UNIFORM TO TRAINING! I THOUGHT YOU WERE A GREAT PERSON!!! I AGREED WITH YOU ALL ALONG AND YOU TREAT ME LIKE THIS!!
2. Thanks for your comment below. I thought you were a great person. Good job on making me feel careless.
3. Why do you hate me!!
4. At the message below, I want to know who complained! Tell me right now!
5. Your message is very rude. I will admit 1 thing. I hate you. The whole time I hated you. Your a nasty old book that doesn't understand the real life of future when you grow up. You are a kid. Your a jealous bugging ant. Yesterday I told my friend all about you and he is close to complaining. Once he does, I hope this teaches you a lesson on respect. Tell me the people who complained right now! Tell me now! Promote me or tell me who complained!
- Your such a rotten egg
- You deserve nothing
- I dislike you now
- Your a bad group owner
- I did all the wars and trainings and you treat me like this
- sorry if I annoyed you but you are just....
- promote me now!!!
- I wasted my stuff and went in your group for a reason
- I built the place. You just don't know cause your crazy
- ya go ahead report me. ROBLOX doesn't care. I don't care.
- Baby High, sky dive from High in the sky, get scared, and cry like a baby. Lol. HAHAHA!!!
- I am sorry but promote me now!
6. Good job. Thanks for kicking me!
7. High, I'm sorry. I promise I won't do it again. I was just sad about why I was demoted but it's ok. I'm real sorry. :) Your still my friend right? Please reply. Forget about the words I said before.
____________________________________________ Here’s my response to each one.
1. I’m not even going to bother reading this one. 2. This is the grammar I was talking about improving. I consider myself a decent person. 3. I didn’t then, but I kind of do now. 4. So you can give them crap? Not happening. I respect my group members, unlike you. 5. Admitting to talking about me behind my back, smooth. Also, *You’re x 1000. Plus, those insults are brutal. 6. It had to be done. 7. I’m getting some real mixed signals. It appears you had no respect for me until you realized there were consequences for your behaviours.
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I have also received messages from many disgruntled members who usually were kind to me. I would trust the word has been spread in his words. I am, once again, allowing replies so people can give their thoughts. Thanks EPS!
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| 26 Jun 2014 09:20 AM |
| Highdraulix you butt head, Sid has been saying sorry and you aren't forgiving him. I wasn't disgruntled at his meeting, he just wanted to see how fast people can go!!! Put Sidhom back in 3IC |
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| 26 Jun 2014 02:30 PM |
| Totally not an alternate account ^ Nice try Sid. |
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| 26 Jun 2014 05:13 PM |
sidhom 1gateway wrote at 6/5/2014 7:51:55 PM:Report Abuse please stop messaging mean things to sidhom! it sucks to be in his situation so please leave him alone! he is doing his best but he cant do it with you bothering him! |
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| 26 Jun 2014 05:13 PM |
RE: RE: RE: WAR Sidhom wrote at 6/5/2014 7:41:52 PM:Report Abuse
Stop it. ------------------------------ On 6/5/2014 vacharya wrote:
and thats what makes me beautiful.
------------------------------ On 6/5/2014 at 7:38 PM, Sidhom wrote: Let me say facts about you. Quit being so bossy and mind your own bees wax. It's my war my place! I can explain about the war once you stop mocking me. Trying to be bossy is more immature.
------------------------------ On 6/5/2014 vacharya wrote:
Please stop acting so immature and childish. Provide people with the information they need about the war on the group wall. Also for the wall to be successful take all the suggestions from the wall. -vacharya |
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| 26 Jun 2014 05:14 PM |
| well idk was I asking too much? |
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| 26 Jun 2014 10:53 PM |
Highdraulix, I honor your decision and quite agree with it.. I was actually about to message you about this sort of thing when I saw the group shout, such timing!
To Sid: You're not a terrible person, but you're not exactly up to par with 3iC qualities. I can respect you as a friend, but it's hard to respect you for a whole lot more at this rate. :/ Long live paintball, long live EPS!
-The [Guy] |
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| 24 Aug 2014 08:50 PM |
Lol Camp, Ikr.
~This guy is ducking g hallatious~ |
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| 24 Aug 2014 09:07 PM |
If you're gonna spell "grammar", spell it the RIGHT way.
It's ***Grammer*** not "Grammar"
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| 24 Aug 2014 09:13 PM |
LOL'D. Look up how to spell grammar. It IS INDEED spelt grammar. Mk?
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| 24 Aug 2014 11:18 PM |
Although I might not be the wisest or most highly respected person on Roblox. I am sure that this situation is a personal argument. This is not really a group decision. Although he does have the power to kick people out of a server, because he is a Admin in the server, it should not be taken personally. Now Banning a person in a game is a different story. Anyways if you "Highdraulix" feel like he either personally disrespected, you have the power to kick him or de-rank him.I personally feel like he was not acting like a ignorant kid.
Highdraulix I believe you have a high expectation for Sidhom, but some of the reason you demoted him is unreasonable and kind of preposterous. When you said "You need to improve your grammar. Please use punctuation." This is something everyone is learning. Sidhom might not have the skill to write complete sentences or adding punctuation, but it is not a requirement. On the other hand if he writes letter to other people he should use complete sentences. It looks more professional, but not everyone write professionally when they are -13 years old.
Highdraulix when you said "You need to host trainings in uniform." This is something Sidhom has no control over it. If he was really bossy he could send blackmails saying, if you do not buy uniform you will be kicked out. He doesn't have the control to make people buy EPS uniforms and most people do not want to use 200 tix. for one shirt and one pant. If you could lower the price more people would buy it, but the reason you gave Sidhom here is really ludicrous.
Highdralix you also quoted "You need to develop better people skills." This is something we all need to improve on. If you think he has horrible people then sure demote Sidhom. If not demote him send him reminders to be nicer or you'll demote him. What you said up here is more reasonable, but that shouldn't make you demote him.
On the hand I know nothing about what is going on between Sidhom and other clan member, BUT I just want you to know Highdralix some clan members are cry babies. They'll get upset at everything you tell them. So if Sidhom gets frustrated, then sure he'll have to do more of a command if they don't understand a thing he says.
In my opinion it is probably a very harebrained decision of you banning Sidhom. He had help your group grow more then this group has lost. Like I said earlier this is a personal argument. |
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| 25 Aug 2014 09:51 AM |
| Highdraulix, the faze head was killing people, and I didn't really like it. @Paintball thanks for what you said and all, but I'm better off putting myself in garbage. By the way, the faze was going over the head of power, not me. You don't have to send a threat message. This forum was out along time ago, but I'll post what really happened yesterday, and yes I was a little rude, I got to admit that. |
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| 25 Aug 2014 09:56 AM |
THIS IS WHAT REALLY HAPPENED:
Yes, I know.*
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 8:55 PM, Sidhom12 wrote: yes I know.
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 8:43 PM, Highdraulix wrote: You're*
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 8:41 PM, Sidhom12 wrote: LOL YOUR BULL CRAP GRAMMAR SHUT UP
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 8:33 PM, Highdraulix wrote: Lol that grammar tho.
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 8:32 PM, Sidhom12 wrote: mindless child. You kick us over a complaint of the true story. Your a kid.
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 8:22 PM, Highdraulix wrote: There you go Let it all out Yeah you smoke me oh smoke me so hard feel accomplished of your smoke?
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 8:21 PM, Sidhom12 wrote: quit joining!
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 8:08 PM, Highdraulix wrote: Seems legit
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 8:08 PM, Sidhom12 wrote: Im done with you! I'm gonna hack you!
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 7:48 PM, Highdraulix wrote: And now you’re trolling the Practice Server. gg.
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 7:46 PM, Sidhom12 wrote: HE ISNT ME YOU @$$
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 7:43 PM, Highdraulix wrote: Obviously I’ll trust my friends over a kid who’s already made a fool out of himself. By the way, real hard to believe that Builds12 isn’t you. Sidhom”12”, Builds”12”? Nice try.
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 7:41 PM, Sidhom12 wrote: Your an idiot, cause you only trust your friends. You aren't awesome when you keep your, stupid b00b acts. If there is someone in your group, that is satisfied, and really likes the owner (I use too, but I don't anymore), then you should try to understand them, before you go in la la land, defending yourself, kissing your own toes of joy.
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 7:39 PM, Highdraulix wrote: “idiot” I thought I was awesome :) This is what I mean. You’re manipulative. You’re fake. You’re putting on this act for a High Rank, and you just proved it.
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 7:37 PM, Sidhom12 wrote: I'm 14 you idiot.
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 7:37 PM, Highdraulix wrote: You’re kissing my ### so you can get a high rank, I don’t really appreciate that. I know you’re pretty young, but in a few years you’ll realize how annoying this is when people suck up to you. I try to treat everybody like family in EPS, but you still haven’t learnt the ropes.
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 7:33 PM, Sidhom12 wrote: Why would I call you awesome.
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 7:31 PM, Highdraulix wrote: No I won’t accept your parties I’m gonna have to believe the kid who can write in proper english.
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 7:30 PM, Sidhom12 wrote: Highdraulix why don't you belive me. All I did was tell the truth!
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 7:20 PM, Highdraulix wrote: For all I know that could be you or ne of your Minions.
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 7:01 PM, Sidhom12 wrote: I'm not lying! If you want proof, look in the audit log, builds12 has been spamming stuff about him. He also said "but I give sid 5 stars". I'm not lying. :(
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 6:56 PM, Highdraulix wrote: He’s telling me that you’re lying, and I trust him more than you.
------------------------------ On 8/24/2014 at 6:56 PM, Sidhom12 wrote: Thank you so much for understanding. I just hope The1FaZeTemperr won't demote me or anything. If he finds out, will he demote me? |
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| 25 Aug 2014 10:01 AM |
| Ok, I'll tell you why I have horrible grammar. I was born here in USA, lived in Egypt and learned Arabic, came back not knowing English. :( I have a B- in Language Arts, the rest I have an A. |
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| 25 Aug 2014 12:56 PM |
| Sihdom, I have nothing to do with this, but kid, High is not going to let you back in.Your Banned from EPS you mind as well move on. Maybe even with your career. |
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| 25 Aug 2014 02:59 PM |
| Sid, that’s what happened the second time around. |
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| 25 Aug 2014 03:00 PM |
we dont care
just leave already
visit this if u got bc and help a ngga out [http://www.roblox.com/1-place?id=174024738] |
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