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Re: "Stalin and Mao were communists"

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Stonixx is not online. Stonixx
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23 Aug 2014 02:02 PM
Absolutely disgusting
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breuning is not online. breuning
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23 Aug 2014 02:03 PM
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS
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Stonixx is not online. Stonixx
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24 Aug 2014 10:21 AM
bump

I need to see how many capitalists get mad
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NavyPanther is not online. NavyPanther
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24 Aug 2014 10:31 AM
the edge is strong with this one


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W3TWYtOcEw
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mathisawsome is not online. mathisawsome
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24 Aug 2014 10:33 AM
yeah


they were just using communism to gain power

they knew communism was stupid, they just wanted to be dictators

lenin wasnt really communist either
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Zech9005 is not online. Zech9005
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24 Aug 2014 12:26 PM
They were realistic communists.

I say realistic communists because on paper there is the possibility where everyone is equal and are treated the same. However there still needs to be a figurehead of the party. That is where on paper into reality clash. The figure head of the party is the LEADER of the party therefore the leader of the people and he/she is no longer equal.

On paper communism > Everything works, everyone is equal, its perfect

Realistic Communism > Everyone works, The Government is better, its almost fascism.
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rachetandclank2 is not online. rachetandclank2
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24 Aug 2014 01:18 PM
Like in the majority of experiences, it's not put into practice what is put into the theory.

And yes, the bourgeois will get mad because now they don't have their own personal historical and modern scapegoat and evil force.
I mean come on. If people even mutter the word "socialism" the entire human race reels back as if you just invoked the dark lord.
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NamarEnDjan is not online. NamarEnDjan
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24 Aug 2014 01:40 PM
Guys, mental diseases aren't funny.
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DrMerkwurdigliebe is not online. DrMerkwurdigliebe
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24 Aug 2014 01:42 PM
>is communist we all applaud him socialistically
>does some reform things work we applaud him more our hands are sore now from all the socialism
>starts a new mercedes benz and rolex collection, starts jailing opposition we don't applaud him so much
>builds a couple concentration camps HE WAS NEVER A COMMUNIST WE NEVER SUPPORTED HIM WHAT A TERRIBLE GUY WORSE THAN ADOLF
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DrMerkwurdigliebe is not online. DrMerkwurdigliebe
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24 Aug 2014 01:48 PM
The problem isn't whether he was or wasn't a communist. The problem is, if he calls himself a communist, the socialist international says he's a communist, and everyone applauds him, then isn't that more or less the same thing?
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Stonixx is not online. Stonixx
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24 Aug 2014 02:20 PM
Communism is a stateless and classless society.
Obviously, Mao and Stalin were totalitarian dictators.
Doesn't seem very stateless to me.
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Zech9005 is not online. Zech9005
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24 Aug 2014 02:41 PM
There is Communism, and there is Anarchy. In the real world Communism is closer to Facism and Anarchy is closer to Communism.

You can believe in a stateless Utopian society, but it simply won't work. Human nature and all that.
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GameAtlas is not online. GameAtlas
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24 Aug 2014 02:47 PM
"You can believe in a stateless Utopian society, but it simply won't work. Human nature and all that."

Hutterite communities are very close to communism and they seem to be working quite fine.
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Zech9005 is not online. Zech9005
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24 Aug 2014 02:50 PM
Communities and world wide global communism are two very different things.

Im not saying its IMPOSSIBLE. Im saying it'd take a lot of mental change globally for it to work.
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JamesGalt is not online. JamesGalt
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24 Aug 2014 03:27 PM
Ohi DrMerk, I never see you here.
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Scyblocks is not online. Scyblocks
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24 Aug 2014 03:55 PM
Stalin was the Red Tsar.

Hardly a communist.
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