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Re: The current generation in both Israel and Gaza

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Unqees is not online. Unqees
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22 Aug 2014 01:27 PM
Israel young people: Kill everyone in Gaza, bomb them, make a World Cup stadium on it!
I don't know about Palestine young people but it's most likely the same just with Israel.

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Unqees is not online. Unqees
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22 Aug 2014 04:27 PM
Bump.
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Stonixx is not online. Stonixx
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23 Aug 2014 01:46 PM
not really

1 in 2 Palestinian children have PTSD
It's because they were bombed every 5 minutes in their life

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Unqees is not online. Unqees
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23 Aug 2014 01:52 PM
"1 in 2 Palestinian children have PTSD"


it's okay, there are many Israeli people who also have it.
I remember what happened to my mum during previous war... D:
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23 Aug 2014 01:53 PM
>"it's okay, there are many Israeli people who also have it."
>Israel has killed 500x more people than palestine
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Unqees is not online. Unqees
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23 Aug 2014 02:30 PM
So...?
If you want to get to numbers, let's talk about the Holocaust when no one cared. Innocent people are dying, what can you do? Also, Israel isn't aiming at civilians, their targets are places where rocket launchers are or warehouses of rockets. Hamas isn't aiming at the means of the IDF or anything, they are aiming at civilians which they claimed to do themselves to capture Israel.

If Israel wanted to kill the civilians - they would already do that in one day bombing every place they see.

Israeli people stay safe and many are lucky, few days ago or even yesterday (I don't know the date) a 4 year old kid was killed and there were other incidents.

Terrorists invade Israel in order to bomb the place of civilians, of course - they're trying to achieve their main target - making everyone go away from their houses and escape from those areas.

The difference is that Israel isn't celebrating about that and Hamas does - and you can clearly see videos of it everywhere.

Hamas is making horror videos as messages to civilians which Israel doesn't.

There are many people in Gaza which you wouldn't even call innocent if you actually knew what could happen to an Israeli person going there, they would lynch him.
And even if that would happen to a Palestinian by Israeli people, the police wouldn't do that but in Gaza everyone would do that - the police, the government.

(Read about "Ramallah Lynching 2000" done by West Bank people.)

Your only excuse is "more people are dead", that's all what you got.
It's nonsense who claims Israel wants war, it never wanted and you can see it.

I think there was a war started when the IDF killed a terrorist, not a civilian, a terrorist, what's the excuse this time?

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23 Aug 2014 02:32 PM
Also.

"i love those videos where israel does their knock on the roof tactic, few seconds alter all the civilians get a call and run up to the roof of that building" - Dulexo.
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23 Aug 2014 02:33 PM
"Also, Israel isn't aiming at civilians"

How come they bombed a UN Refugee camp a few weeks ago?
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Unqees is not online. Unqees
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23 Aug 2014 02:40 PM
I bet there were rocket launchers there.


Their plan:

- Fire rockets from public places.
- Make Israel bomb those places.
- Saying Israel bombed a school (or any other public place) and that civilians were killed.
- Everyone hates Israel.
- Israel is crashed.
- If Israel wants to remain a part of the world - do what Hamas wants.

Great plane, no?


Who knows what ACTUALLY goes on in Gaza? Have you ever been there?

Oh and either UN or EU found themselves that they fire rockets from public places.

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23 Aug 2014 02:42 PM
Don't tell me what my country actually wants to do because I live in it, you probably live FAR away and only hear and get your facts from what you see on the news with those anti-Jews people making everything Israel does against them ("Anything you say or do may be used against you in a court of law", the Miranda warning, kinda reminds it, no?).

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23 Aug 2014 02:44 PM
@link

Don't forget about the attack on those kids on the beach.
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Unqees is not online. Unqees
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23 Aug 2014 02:44 PM
When you'll live at least as much years as I do in Israel and know 100% about any war, about the culture, about the Presidents, about the Prime Ministers, about the thoughts of people - talk to me (or if it's all that just in Gaza with Palestinian people then it's fine with me too).

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23 Aug 2014 02:45 PM
"Don't forget about the attack on those kids on the beach."

Proof they meant to kill the kids. Let's talk about how many kids in Israel died, so please, stop with the "kids on the beach" excuse. It's a cliche.

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23 Aug 2014 02:46 PM
there is also a lot of US soldiers shooting at muslim civilians, cause they are muslim
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23 Aug 2014 02:50 PM
"there is also a lot of US soldiers shooting at muslim civilians, cause they are muslim"

Yes, it's so easy to ignore anything else in the world and blame Israel when it has its actual reasons and not because they are Palestinians.

I can give you a list of 100 incidents which are way worse, but you would ignore because it's easy to blame the person who everyone hates, it's just like in real life - you'll never stand by the weak person because you're afraid to be hated too.

If it was true ("apartheid state","anti-Arabs state", etc.) they would already ban any Arab person in Israel.


Do you know how many Israeli people are afraid to go to some places because Arabs are either there or are in their towns which are surrounded by those places? And not because they decided that they are afraid, because so many incidents.
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23 Aug 2014 02:55 PM
"Proof they meant to kill the kids. Let's talk about how many kids in Israel died, so please, stop with the "kids on the beach" excuse. It's a cliche."

Well, there weren't any Hamas members around so why else would they shoot?

"let's talk about how many kids in israel died"

Oh, please. More Israelis die of peanut allergies then of Hamas rocket attacks.
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23 Aug 2014 03:04 PM
"Well, there weren't any Hamas members around so why else would they shoot?"

How do you know if there weren't any rocket launchers or warehouses of rockets, were you there? Again, if their target was kids, they would already bomb everyone... you probably didn't see tapes of what they do in Gaza.

"Oh, please. More Israelis die of peanut allergies then of Hamas rocket attacks."

Not sure if you can die of peanut allergies but I have allergies to some types of peanuts and I was in hospital when I was a kid, it was a disaster, I still have flashes, that ain't funny.

And people in Israel have shelters, are listening to the rules. Even though there are some of those people who think they are God and go whenever to wherever they want - so most of the times they get hurt.

I'm not supporting the deaths of civilians but again - what can you do? If Hamas would stop firing rockets and there were no terrorists in Gaza - Israel has no targets.

Do you think the government of Israel would want to make all the people stuck in their homes and waste the time of everyone? No school, nothing.

“Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.” ― Dr. Seuss
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23 Aug 2014 07:08 PM
"How do you know if there weren't any rocket launchers or warehouses of rockets, were you there?"

Here's a witness of the shelling of the kids on the beach:http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/16/witness-gaza-shelling-first-hand-account

Surely had Hamas been in the area the journalists would have reported it.

"Again, if their target was kids, they would already bomb everyone... you probably didn't see tapes of what they do in Gaza."

Bombing everyone would result in widespread condemnation of Israel and loss of US military funds and western backing. Bombing everyone does not seem like a very good strategy at all.
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23 Aug 2014 07:10 PM
Look I'm not saying Israel was explicitly targeting those kids, I'm just saying it's possible. For all we know it could just be a freak accident.
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23 Aug 2014 07:13 PM
I missed the last part of your post.

"Not sure if you can die of peanut allergies but I have allergies to some types of peanuts and I was in hospital when I was a kid, it was a disaster, I still have flashes, that ain't funny."

I wasn't joking nor did I think it was funny.

"And people in Israel have shelters, are listening to the rules. Even though there are some of those people who think they are God and go whenever to wherever they want - so most of the times they get hurt."

What?

"I'm not supporting the deaths of civilians but again - what can you do? If Hamas would stop firing rockets and there were no terrorists in Gaza - Israel has no targets."

This is why getting a ceasefire that appeals to Hamas and Israel is very important.

"Do you think the government of Israel would want to make all the people stuck in their homes and waste the time of everyone? No school, nothing."

I'm not sure what you're trying to say?
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link6249 is not online. link6249
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23 Aug 2014 07:24 PM
"I bet there were rocket launchers there."

are you serious.

A UN camp?

Now you're just trying to justify unnecesary violence.

"Don't tell me what my country actually wants to do because I live in it, you probably live FAR away and only hear and get your facts from what you see on the news with those anti-Jews people making everything Israel does against them"

I saw it on Euronews, which is probably the least biased broadcast news program.
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