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Re: Walyn's suggestions on how to improve Roblox

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Walyn is not online. Walyn
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19 Aug 2014 10:41 AM
1: Be more transparent with how things work - Nobody knows how the reporting works, nobody knows what all is being updated when the game updates, no patch notes are posted, no progress reports are given. Games such as Wildstar or Path of Exile are very good in this regard, having significant patch notes, posting a wealth of information about future updates that isn't just hype - they go into why they are doing what they are doing.

2: Either strictly enforce or abandon the whole "kid-friendly" thing - Right now, Roblox is filled with users posting things that are, according to the rules, inappropriate, and getting away with it quite easily, thinking they're 2edgy4u because they posted BAD WORDS ON A KID GAME! oh no!

2a: If you're going to strictly enforce the whole kid-friendly thing, don't dumb the content down or let it get dumbed down due to negligence - Kids can deal with darker concepts, such as loss or fear, but it has to be dealt with in a mature (not rated M for mature, intellectually mature) way.

2b: If you're going to abandon the whole kid-friendly thing, don't dumb the content down or let it get dumbed down due to negligence - There's already enough stereotypes of gamers being closed-minded neanderthals that enjoy violence and content that is currently (supposedly) not appropriate for Roblox; you can allow more "edgy" content, but don't let the edginess be what you're going for, after all, that's what we see half the time on Roblox now.

3: Implement "milestone" awards for reaching a certain number of place visits, KOs, et cetera: Right now, you either put forth a lot of effort and succeed and acheive notability, put forth a lot of effort and fail, or put forth no effort and fail. There needs to be a middle ground that can be reached through eventually getting to a certain point where you'll be recognized for at least existing.

4: Revamp the forums entirely. Currently, they are woefully out of date and broken. Online games have one thing going for them that offline does not and that is community (speaking in broad strokes by the way), and Roblox needs to embrace it further than they have.

4a: Hide post counts. They only serve as fodder for ad hominem attacks against people with lower post counts.

5: Remove the ability to disable comments on items such as places, models, and clothing. The feature does far more to prevent constructive criticism and warning against scams than it does to prevent spam. Spammers and victims of chain comment scams will go to the hats to find open comment sections, disabling comments only lets content creators bury their head in the sand and pretend they're perfect.

6: Revamp the report abuse system. Currently, you have no clue what you have and have not reported, and have no clue how the case is going. A better system would allow players to see what reports are currently active/not closed, and allow them to go to the content they reported to re-report if they feel they need to. In addition, you could see what players have reported you for and what action was taken on your account based on the report.

6a: Reward players for accurate and prompt reports. Right now, there's no reward for helping Roblox out with rulebreakers. Such rewards as a small bundle of tix/r$, higher priority for future reports, et cetera, would be a major incentive to report players for the right reasons.

6b: Punish players for inaccurate and repetitive reports. Just as good behavior should be rewarded, bad behavior should be punished, especially with an important feature such as report abuse, as without punishment for abusing the report, you would have people reporting every post or comment for spam in a desperate attempt to get rewarded. In addition, this would solve the potential problem of people repeatedly reporting someone that has not broken a rule in an attempt to get them banned.

tl;dr: tell us what's going on, either be kid friendly or dont, make the area between being an unknown and being famous matter, fix the forums, force comments to be enabled, revamp the report abuse system
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Walyn is not online. Walyn
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19 Aug 2014 11:10 AM
You see, this is why I put my join year in the title last time, so people actually look at the thread.
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hassib123 is not online. hassib123
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19 Aug 2014 11:11 AM
Support the 07er.


SUPPORT!
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Walyn is not online. Walyn
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19 Aug 2014 11:16 AM
So you're blindly supporting me because of my join date, apparently. That's not the smartest idea in the world.
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Coolfire104 is not online. Coolfire104
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19 Aug 2014 11:19 AM
I read the Tl;dr even though I read the whole thing. V.V

SUPPORT! ALL OF EM!

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jrrikiricon is not online. jrrikiricon
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19 Aug 2014 11:24 AM
this is really good except for the ability to see who reported you. what if its a hacker and they take your accout?

but anyways, support
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Walyn is not online. Walyn
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19 Aug 2014 11:27 AM
@jrrikiricon - One, you wouldn't see who reported you, as that is unimportant. You would see that someone reported you, and that's all. Two, someone can find your username at any time, so that would be a non-issue if it came up. Three, just because someone knows your username doesn't mean they know how to get into your account.
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weirdchrono is not online. weirdchrono
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19 Aug 2014 12:00 PM
Support!
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nathan15051 is not online. nathan15051
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19 Aug 2014 12:08 PM
Support. Also. I would be to just abandon the kid-friendly thing and just get classified as a site aimed at everyone. The junk front page stuff is mostly player by dumb kids who enjoy everything- And I said to leave the kid friendly things because we have many fail ads, many trolls, many inappropriate offsite ads, many scammers, lots of bad stuff. We either just punish them all in one shot, or abandon.
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Walyn is not online. Walyn
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19 Aug 2014 01:32 PM
Bump.
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Natej89 is not online. Natej89
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19 Aug 2014 02:51 PM
Support, most people couldn't of have said anything better :D

Communities reaction to new updates: http://www.roblox.com/Community-troll-bait-item?id=164308057
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Walyn is not online. Walyn
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20 Aug 2014 12:18 PM
Bump

Also, what is with people simply saying "support", that doesn't add anything to the discussion
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Harrypotter4456 is not online. Harrypotter4456
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20 Aug 2014 12:20 PM
I hate to be so nondescriptive, but...

SUPPORT!!!

Seriously, this is one of the best threads in the S&I forum.
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mu6666mu is not online. mu6666mu
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20 Aug 2014 12:39 PM
I support each and every idea. The revamped forums and better reporting system are my favorite.

--The next statement is true. The previous statement is false--
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Walyn is not online. Walyn
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20 Aug 2014 05:00 PM
Bump.
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LuckySquid is not online. LuckySquid
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20 Aug 2014 05:02 PM
Support.
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thekuldude is not online. thekuldude
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20 Aug 2014 05:14 PM
Support.
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CHEEZE2011 is not online. CHEEZE2011
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20 Aug 2014 05:14 PM
Once I was banned (on one of my alts) for saying "m".
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RetiredColonel is not online. RetiredColonel
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20 Aug 2014 05:16 PM
You have my support. But, hide post count could be optional, I think.
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Walyn is not online. Walyn
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20 Aug 2014 05:17 PM
If hide post count was optional, hiding post count would quickly have the assumed stigma of "this guy has a low post count therefore their posts are not good because something something something numbers"
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hollie1239 is not online. hollie1239
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20 Aug 2014 05:22 PM
Support but not 4a


I like seeing how many post I have
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jrrikiricon is not online. jrrikiricon
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21 Aug 2014 10:08 AM
^^ yep

@waylyn
it is possible to get into someones account only knowing their username
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YurOlJuwrks1 is not online. YurOlJuwrks1
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21 Aug 2014 10:45 AM
support because you're a top 100 poster and you joined before 2008 :3
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bvalere is not online. bvalere
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21 Aug 2014 10:54 AM
I like everything in this post.
I'd like you to elaborate a little bit more on your 4th suggestion. Simply removing/hiding post counts does not mean you have "revamped" the forums. Maybe we need to implement a better system such as BBCode, etc.

Aside from that, I support.
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LemmJuice is not online. LemmJuice
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21 Aug 2014 11:08 AM
I strongly support these suggestions, especially the "abandon the kid friendly idea" because that sometimes puts people off Roblox thinking "To young for me", especially good programmers/developers. And most importantly will ease the stress of the report system.
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