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Re: Why do clans nowadays have to "accept" the war?

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Jammintoad is not online. Jammintoad
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14 Aug 2014 06:36 PM
I'd be the first to say groups have progressed a long way since their creation. But seriously? How can you "decline" a war declaration. It goes against basically all rules of warfare and games in general.

In my opinion, if a clan declares war on another and they "decline" the war, the clan who declared war should be named victor.
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kjr51 is not online. kjr51
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14 Aug 2014 06:38 PM
Obviously when a group declines a war they won't defend so there's no point in trying.
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Jammintoad is not online. Jammintoad
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14 Aug 2014 06:38 PM
Right, so the clan who backed out should be declared the loser of the war for backing out.
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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14 Aug 2014 06:39 PM
I would ask gannex and jjjakey that one.



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HardCoreRecon is not online. HardCoreRecon
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14 Aug 2014 06:39 PM
Because egos got bigger as our pockets got smaller.

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12gooroo12 is not online. 12gooroo12
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14 Aug 2014 06:39 PM
support
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Dexterite is not online. Dexterite
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14 Aug 2014 06:41 PM
Mhmm.

The only time you decline a war is if you're in development, and the declaree is stupid for declaring war on an in development clan.

- Breekahn Brizon
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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14 Aug 2014 06:41 PM
In actuality the acceptance of a war has to be made because of the
"Allow enemies" option in groups.
Also the fact you have to clarify to the group that you are waring that, you are indeed at war and that they should be raiding them and you should be raiding that clan.

This also keeps things less chaotic.
but i guess logic is irrational.


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Jammintoad is not online. Jammintoad
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14 Aug 2014 06:49 PM
The situation between FC and Vak was different. Both clans planned on accepting the war, but when negotiations of war terms trying to make it fair became ludicrous, neither side could continue.
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Dexterite is not online. Dexterite
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14 Aug 2014 06:49 PM
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GLORY TO FROST VAKTOVIA!!!!
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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14 Aug 2014 06:52 PM
Why do clans now adays have to accept "war terms"?
exactly my point.

~Arguing with you is like a brick wall, why should I give you that pleasure~ C7G Night Owl
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Jammintoad is not online. Jammintoad
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14 Aug 2014 06:57 PM
There has to be some sort of terms so that a victor can be fairly declared. Unlike with real war we can't just kill the other team till we win, we just respawn. They're in place to make sure there is no dispute on the victor.
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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14 Aug 2014 06:58 PM
Do you understand the reason now? or should I explain the things I have already said again?

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LordOptimize is not online. LordOptimize
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14 Aug 2014 07:01 PM
Because they could decline it if the group flames too much and floods
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Jammintoad is not online. Jammintoad
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14 Aug 2014 07:02 PM
"and floods"
-_-
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Theribus is not online. Theribus
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14 Aug 2014 07:04 PM
What if they post pone the war till a later date.
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nowihaveyou is not online. nowihaveyou
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14 Aug 2014 07:04 PM
there should be a fine line between a reasonable decline such as

>failure to meet agreements in war terms

and on the other side of the spectrum

>we won war u becus ur good xd so well make some excuse as to why



im sure someone could make a thread depicting said fine line and have it be finetuned by c&g as some type of guideline for this
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PrinceSora1997 is not online. PrinceSora1997
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14 Aug 2014 07:06 PM
Well I guess it's just a matter of perspective. What if a clan is under reconstruction? If war is declared, does it mean the war under works must accept or they lose? Even without that reason, you shouldn't claim a win.

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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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14 Aug 2014 07:07 PM
So what you are saying?

I can declare war on VAK with my 1 member clan and if they decline?

I WIN!!
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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14 Aug 2014 07:07 PM
What if a clan declares war on another clan.

Makes totally unfair war-terms.

Doesn't let the other side change them?
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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14 Aug 2014 07:08 PM
The whole point of war is for it to be fun and an activity booster.

If both sides don't recognize each other as enemies?

What the hell is the point?

Both sides will be claiming autowin and since either can't agree on war terms they will just abuse and be unfair.
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AwesomeKillerKevin is not online. AwesomeKillerKevin
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14 Aug 2014 07:09 PM
What if a clan has 'Not accepting war' on their description.

Then what?
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PrinceSora1997 is not online. PrinceSora1997
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14 Aug 2014 07:57 PM
^We get the point. LOL

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Exoknotz is not online. Exoknotz
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14 Aug 2014 08:00 PM
was the title a rhetorical question
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AstantiVanhelm is not online. AstantiVanhelm
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14 Aug 2014 08:04 PM
IMO

If a clan declares war the only reasons it should decline are:

1. In dev

2. The terms proposed by the declarer are unfair and bias and they're unwilling to budge on them.

3. If a war declarer is irrelevant in size to the other clan through activity.

4. If the declarer has no base.

I would think of others but it's late in the night here and I need sleep.
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