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Re: I dont like how vegeterians think eating animals is wrong

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llllIIIIlllIII is not online. llllIIIIlllIII
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13 Aug 2014 07:21 PM

Were mammels, were animals.
Animals that dont need meat to sustain life still eat meat.

Animals are killed in nature everyday by other animals, and eaten.

Humans just have a more efficient/ different way of doing it


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13 Aug 2014 07:22 PM

mammals*


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13 Aug 2014 07:22 PM
because logic hasn't wiggled its way into their brains yet
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13 Aug 2014 07:22 PM
yea but it's wrong to treat animals poorly before killing them.

halal meat 4life

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13 Aug 2014 07:22 PM

oi


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13 Aug 2014 07:23 PM
@op

how is hanging an animal then sliting its throat while it bleeds less cruel



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13 Aug 2014 07:23 PM
no animal but a human matters
really once you boil it down that is what it comes to
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13 Aug 2014 07:23 PM
A vegetarian would tell you that humans are now able to live without killing animals, and as thinking beings, it is our duty to do so

If we just gave in to all our base instinct we wouldn't be human
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13 Aug 2014 07:24 PM
I have a family friend who is a vegetarian, and she doesn't eat meat because she disagrees with the way that humans raise the animals. It's not the actual act of killing the animal, but the way it's done.
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13 Aug 2014 07:24 PM
Animals taste good



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13 Aug 2014 07:25 PM
>how is hanging an animal then sliting its throat while it bleeds less cruel

how do you even jump to that from what was said lmao
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13 Aug 2014 07:25 PM
im pretty sure that slitting a throat is a painless way of killing in comparison to slicing them in half slowly with a saw and ripping out their jewels before death.

also they are fed well and aren't abused whilst they are under care.

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13 Aug 2014 07:26 PM
Uh they are grown to be eaten because its more efficent



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13 Aug 2014 07:26 PM
Mmhm, and efficiency isn't necessary humane.
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13 Aug 2014 07:27 PM
they dont like how the animals are treated in slaughterhouses
like
locked up in crowded pens
they think it is inhumane
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13 Aug 2014 07:27 PM
I don't like when vegetarians make there pets vegetarian.

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13 Aug 2014 07:27 PM
Oops!

necessarily*
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13 Aug 2014 07:27 PM

@op

Thats not how it happens, idk where you've read that


Cows are usually knocked out with a large blunt machine. (fast and painless)


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13 Aug 2014 07:28 PM
people forget that animals can feel pain to, it's not wrong to kill for meat but it's wrong to lock them in a cage and force them to live like they're in the holocaust

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13 Aug 2014 07:28 PM
if you want to keep animals alive don't steal all their food by becoming a vegetarian

...And that's why yellow makes me sad.
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13 Aug 2014 07:28 PM
Well, lemme try and reword that last post. There's a certain process of logic that the vegetarian lifestyle uses. Sort of a ladder of logical conclusion.

1: Animal lives and suffering should be valued at or near that of a human.
2: Technology has evolved to a point that we are able to maintain a healthy diet without eating meat (pills, supplements, etc). (Sidenote: This one is debatable).
3: Therefore, it is cruel to kill animals for food, since it is both immoral and unnecessary.

I'm not a vegetarian myself. I just think I can speak for them here, since I don't think OT has any vegetarians.
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13 Aug 2014 07:29 PM
"large blunt machines"

"fast and painless"

that doesn't sound very painless

and i found this

* Captive bolt stunning – A “pistol” is set against the animal’s head and a metal rod is thrust into the brain.Shooting a struggling animal is difficult, and the rod often misses its mark.16

* Electric stunning – Current produces a grand mal seizure; then the throat is cut. According to industry consultant Temple Grandin, PhD, “Insufficient amperage can cause an animal to be paralyzed without losing sensibility.”17

* Ritual slaughter – Animals are fully conscious when their carotid arteries are cut. This is supposed to cause unconsciousness within seconds, but because of blood flow through the vertebral arteries in the back of the neck, some animals can remain conscious as they bleed for up to a minute.18 Additionally, Temple Grandin, PhD notes “Unfortunately, there are some plants which use cruel methods of restraint such as hanging live animals upside down.”19 This can cause broken bones as the heavy animal hangs by a chain attached to one leg.


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13 Aug 2014 07:30 PM
I'm not going to eat pills to substitute meat.

Nature is cruel, pain is nothing

Animals die from other animals for food every day x2



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13 Aug 2014 07:30 PM
humans are not just animals tho

its their choice, just think of it as more meat for you
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13 Aug 2014 07:30 PM
Treat the animals well, and you get a better taste.
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