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Re: USCHS | Petition to remove the Commander of Commanders

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BookBobII is not online. BookBobII
Joined: 09 Aug 2014
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13 Aug 2014 01:38 PM
Easy and simple as the title.

Having this position will cause an imbalance of power throughout the group. Giving ONE commander the power to command ALL of them? They could take control of our division.

Remove the position for the best of USCHS.

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BookBobII | Commander of the Critical Incident Response Team
sadsnowmaster | Commander of the Containment & Emergency Response Team

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Proxteous is not online. Proxteous
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13 Aug 2014 01:41 PM
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xXKeepTryingXx is not online. xXKeepTryingXx
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13 Aug 2014 01:41 PM
got dat nay nay
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TheBenSquare is not online. TheBenSquare
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13 Aug 2014 01:41 PM
It doesn't mean I have un-restricted power. Plus, the position was created less than an hour ago by Sergeant at Arms, funtoad.

TheBenSquare | Commander of Commanders

- USA Deputy Secretary of the Treasury
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BookBobII is not online. BookBobII
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13 Aug 2014 01:43 PM
You aren't fit for your position. You got the power out of nowhere.

At least have elections for this position.

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TheBenSquare is not online. TheBenSquare
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13 Aug 2014 01:45 PM
It sounds like you just don't like having another boss added to the previous/originally 5. (Speaker of the House, Sergeant at Arms, Deputy Sergeant at Arms, Head of Operations, and Deputy Head of Operations)

TheBenSquare | Commander of Commanders

- USA Deputy Secretary of the Treasury
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BookBobII is not online. BookBobII
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13 Aug 2014 01:46 PM
Sounds like you just cant wait to have the power to tell us what to do.

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TheBenSquare is not online. TheBenSquare
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13 Aug 2014 01:49 PM
That's a bit interesting honestly. I've been in this position for about 15 or 20 minutes now and I haven't even given any of you any kind of order. I haven't threatened any of your jobs either, which I could easily do for you making this petition. I won't though. How does what I've done so far make it seem like I just can't wait to "order you around?"

- USA Deputy Secretary of the Treasury
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BookBobII is not online. BookBobII
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13 Aug 2014 01:51 PM
You can't remove me from my position for creating a petition. You dont even know what you can/can't do.

Like I said, you're UNFIT.

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TheBenSquare is not online. TheBenSquare
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13 Aug 2014 01:54 PM
I can. I simply send a PM to either the Sergeant at Arms or Deputy Sergeant at Arms to have a Commander fired. My job is to oversee the other Commanders.

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sadsnowmaster is not online. sadsnowmaster
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13 Aug 2014 01:55 PM
Ben, you're my friend and all, I don't hate you, I just hate the thought of the Head of Commanders. Funtoad didn't let us vote if we want someone to command us he just made the decision himself. Sorry Ben, Ily. :)


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TheBenSquare is not online. TheBenSquare
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13 Aug 2014 01:56 PM
The thought of a Head of Commanders might seem a little uncomfortable, but once you get to know me, you'll be fine with it. Book, I also have to say, I'm curious why you aren't open to giving a new HR a chance.

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BookBobII is not online. BookBobII
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13 Aug 2014 01:57 PM
What would be your reasoning? If I was removed that would be unfair and that would cause bad publicity for USCHS.

Now, will you stop being hard headed so I can continue to make USCHS better?

The Halfrican | LordVoxxy was Deleted on Aug, 09. RIP | Add 8,041 to post count.
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MatthewFA is not online. MatthewFA
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13 Aug 2014 01:58 PM
fite fite fite
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TheBenSquare is not online. TheBenSquare
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13 Aug 2014 02:01 PM
@Book

"Now can you stop being so hard headed so I can make USCHS better?"

I don't really see how a removal of a new position will make it better. The Head of Operations has a lot of things to do, and a Commander of Commanders just lessens his work load a bit. I mean, he can still fire me whenever and fire a Commander whenever and such, but he just doesn't have to do as much. This new position will help USCHS greatly in reducing the workload that the Head of Operations has.

Also, I'd prefer to not fire anyone for a simple petition, but if the petition involves disrespecting me as well, it won't go too good for you.

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BookBobII is not online. BookBobII
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13 Aug 2014 02:09 PM
The HoO knows how much work is on his/her hands. By putting their name on the ballot they understand.

The workload shouldn't be reduced so the "Commander of Commanders" can help.

Fun didn't even ask opinions on who the Commanders want in charge, and so far 3/4 of the commanders want you removed. As soon as Hppolice logs on I will ask him.

The Halfrican | LordVoxxy was Deleted on Aug, 09. RIP | Add 8,041 to post count.
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TheBenSquare is not online. TheBenSquare
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13 Aug 2014 02:13 PM
Based on your logic, why have commanders at all? Why not have the Head of Operations oversee all units/teams/agents? The Commanders lessen his work load, along with other ranks such as Board of Directors and Agents in Charge. A Commander of Commanders has the same purpose. Change is for the better.

What funtoad says goes. There isn't a need to discuss it with Commanders first.

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BookBobII is not online. BookBobII
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13 Aug 2014 02:15 PM
So what you're saying is funtoad is incharge of us, so we dont have a say in how the group operates?

You sir, are wrong. I believe that the USA is a Democracy? Correct me if I'm wrong.

The Halfrican | LordVoxxy was Deleted on Aug, 09. RIP | Add 8,041 to post count.
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BookBobII is not online. BookBobII
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13 Aug 2014 02:17 PM
If you're going to be in control of us, we should have our opinions considered.

"For the people, by the people" I believe it is, sir.

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TheBenSquare is not online. TheBenSquare
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13 Aug 2014 02:18 PM
I have a feeling you made this petition for the same reason sad signed it. You aren't comfortable with the thought of a Head of Commanders, and in your case specifically, likely un-sure of what kind of actions will take place while I have this position.

I've been in leadership roles, or rather, a high rank in many war clans for awhile now. I resigned from all of them. Now, you might be wondering what does USCHS have to do with war clans? Well, war clans is a bit of a larger load of responsibility. You have to handle raids, defenses, trainings, patrols, rallies, and occasionally a social event if needed. If I've been a HR in many war clans and resigned rather than fired/removed/demoted, what's the chances I can handle being the USCHS Head of Commanders? A pretty good chance.

All you really need to do is just get more comfortable with me and you'll see that it was a good choice. Currently your just not used to having a Head of Commanders, but after awhile, you'll get used to it. Its the same way for everyone whenever some position is removed or some position is added.

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TheBenSquare is not online. TheBenSquare
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13 Aug 2014 02:20 PM
Book, yes, you all do have a large say in the matter. However, when it comes to a new addition for the Commanders, there is a good chance of bias in the matter. Yes, USA is a democracy. However, departments and agencies aren't a nation, we're an agency or a department. USCHS is an agency. In the United States itself, a petition is much different and decisions are much different. But you just have to realize, this is an agency.

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BookBobII is not online. BookBobII
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13 Aug 2014 02:27 PM
I've been HR in many war clans too, actually. That doesn't set you apart from ANYONE else.

Otherwise, this petition is for the removal of the position, not you.

I'm done arguing with you.

The Halfrican | LordVoxxy was Deleted on Aug, 09. RIP | Add 8,041 to post count.
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TheBenSquare is not online. TheBenSquare
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13 Aug 2014 02:29 PM
The removal of the position involves the removal of me based on what you've been saying.

If your done in this argument, I suppose I may of won this argument.

- USA Deputy Secretary of the Treasury
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BookBobII is not online. BookBobII
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13 Aug 2014 02:35 PM
I'm done arguing because you're a hard head.

Goodbye.

The Halfrican | LordVoxxy was Deleted on Aug, 09. RIP | Add 8,041 to post count.
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MastahProdigy is not online. MastahProdigy
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13 Aug 2014 02:52 PM
SIGNED,
Associate Commander MastahProdigy

SUPPORT THIS! HEAD COMMANDER IS NONSENSE!!!
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