PappyJR99
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:03 PM |
I'm not in VAK anymore but I think it's debatable.
I think they're in their prime for activity, not skill though.
Maybe not prime time for tech either ever since Stroudie left.
And people say they stink because they lost an 8 hour raid on TGI.... I'm on TGI's side but you can't really say VAK stinks because of that. First off, it's TGI's turf. I know that's no excuse for 8 hours, but if TGI and VAK never had beef VAK would've won, the reason being, TGI wouldn't really waste 8 hours of defending on them if they didn't have beef. TGI wanted to serve them and that they did.
And some say they're not because they rely on server flooding..... to be honest every clan does it, and because they server hop... once again every clan basically does that too, I don't see a problem with it, if you're going to complain about 25 v 5 and saying it's unfair, make your base 10 of your people for official, no one made your rules about how many it takes to be official but you.
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:04 PM |
| Most of the good ppl have now left. |
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PappyJR99
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:05 PM |
@ Got
That's true, and their skill has decreased majorly. |
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:05 PM |
"TGI wouldn't really waste 8 hours of defending on them if they didn't have beef. TGI wanted to serve them and that they did."
1) wasn't a waste because TGI is better 2) ha ha VAK got served |
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:05 PM |
| And there is more suck ups than 2012 |
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:05 PM |
| We didn't lose the raid, not sure if you were there or not, but it was exploited. In your rule desc. of SH I it says in the case of an exploitation neither side wins. |
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:05 PM |
| just wait for SMO 2 to be released |
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Raethyr
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:06 PM |
"We didn't lose the raid, not sure if you were there or not, but it was exploited. In your rule desc. of SH I it says in the case of an exploitation neither side wins."
fact is you wasted 8 hours of your life and you came away with nothing.
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StoneHell
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:06 PM |
VAK itself is not even active.
VAC is the active one, and its only an academy group. |
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PappyJR99
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:07 PM |
@ TTom
I wasn't there, I was busy during the Frost Clan vs. V O I D raids/defenses, and yeah I heard it was exploited, but people are saying you're bad because you didn't win in 8 hours. |
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StoneHell
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:07 PM |
Ttom, did you have to raid for more then 8 hours to win?
Apologies but that is a loss in the eyes of many. Pathetic. |
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Raethyr
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:08 PM |
| Incorrect stone, VAC is 2.8 times the size of VAK itself. Of course they would be a bit more "active"! It consists of more people! |
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:09 PM |
| vak means very angry kids vac means very angry children |
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PappyJR99
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:10 PM |
@ Rae
Personally I think VAK will beat V O I D.
I don't even think their will be a war, I think ISOLAYTOR said their will be so more people join V O I D and they have more enlists to see how people like it.
But if it does happen, maybe V O I D will win if their new base is like PoA and all... if both clans play fair(Which won't happen) Who knows.
It'll just be auto wins anyways. |
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Yarrrrrrr
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:10 PM |
| and i'm still in my prime/ hitting my stride/ what'd you do with the back half of your life/ you freaked out started counting coins for the bank/ and you sure didn't have no wife/ oooooh |
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StoneHell
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:10 PM |
| Ttom, Thank you for backing up my statement! |
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:12 PM |
"Incorrect stone, VAC is 2.8 times the size of VAK itself."
Aaaaaand this still isn't an excuse for you wimping out to defend SMO |
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:14 PM |
Reasons we didn't win the raid (though, we didn't lose it): 1. The majority of those raiding were not considered the "cream-of-the-crop". Some of TGI's best fighters were there. 2. A lot of our men had to go for real-life things such as it being too late or having to get off. 3. The lack of officer authorization. The officers in charge of the raid were forced off due to real life issues.
So many things went wrong with the raid that enabled TGI an easy way of defending. Fatal issues happened along the VAK raiding force that proved to cripple the raid for our side. There wasn't really anything to be done, too many problems occurred. We persevered for 8 hours or so until the exploitation occurred, we did NOT give up. |
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:15 PM |
"2. A lot of our men had to go for real-life things such as it being too late or having to get off."
keyword: men |
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StoneHell
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:16 PM |
Can I add that you had 8 hours to win and failed?
And that you had #1 fighter raiding with VAK? |
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Glocktech
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| 11 Aug 2014 04:17 PM |
"We didn't lose the raid, not sure if you were there or not, but it was exploited. In your rule desc. of SH I it says in the case of an exploitation neither side wins."
If you can't win in 8 hours you lost. You even begged for it to be a tie, and threatened to raid all night if it wouldn't be called a tie. You were in no position to ask for this, since you were being spawncamped.
Long story short, VAK is terrible, and is too reliant on base updates. |
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Raethyr
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