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Re: Football has really gotten soft these days

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KingIceFinnI is not online. KingIceFinnI
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06 Aug 2014 06:49 PM
Today, our coach told us about this new rule that's in the NFL too, it's called "defenseless player". So this is similar to blindside hitting. Basically what happens is that if you hit someone really hard when they don't even see you, the ref can eject you from the game because that player was defenseless. Some examples:


- So a receiver is making a catch near the sideline and he's in the air about to catch the ball. You run really fast from across the field and as soon as he catches the ball, you hit him, and of course the hit is gonna be raging hard and he's hurt. If the ref(s) feel bad for the player/determined he got hit too hard, you're ejected.

- Quarterback is going for a pass and he's facing a certain direction. While you're on a blitz and got past the blockers and you hit the quarterback really hard from the blindside. If the refs determine he's hurt too much, you're ejected.


And then other ways this sport is starting to get soft, we don't even go in full gear anymore in practice (high school JV/Varsity). I know they wanna keep players safe for the game, but come on! The coach said no tackling in practice, and we're not gonna do those Oklahoma drills and The Ring of Fire and such. Doing those are like the best part of practice :(

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Pilaster is not online. Pilaster
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06 Aug 2014 06:50 PM
probably the most boring thing i ever tried to read.
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FriendshipExpress is not online. FriendshipExpress
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06 Aug 2014 06:54 PM
I'm pretty sure that rule has existed for a while
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KingIceFinnI is not online. KingIceFinnI
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06 Aug 2014 06:55 PM
Our coach is just telling us about this now...
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jake13jake31 is not online. jake13jake31
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06 Aug 2014 06:55 PM
I guess you could now call it

Softball

Excuse my incredibly lame joke but I refused to pass up the opportunity

Respect the science!
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ferrykeizer is not online. ferrykeizer
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06 Aug 2014 06:56 PM
Well, atleast it's not sarcastaball.
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XoteI is not online. XoteI
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06 Aug 2014 06:56 PM
@1st one
its called Passing Interference

@2nd one
I doubt that's an actual rule
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superCrazyHuman is not online. superCrazyHuman
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06 Aug 2014 06:57 PM
That's ridiculous
You aren't "defenseless" if you're playing football, you're putting yourself out there, knowing what may happen, and plus getting someone on their blind side is a good tactic if you ask me.
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omgdsi is not online. omgdsi
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06 Aug 2014 06:57 PM
lol crappy rule
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FriendshipExpress is not online. FriendshipExpress
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06 Aug 2014 07:00 PM
"Our coach is just telling us about this now..."

I'm pretty sure that unnecessary roughness has always been an enforceable rule, it just wasn't always enforced

I dunno though, haven't bothered with football since 8th grade, thought it was lame
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omgdsi is not online. omgdsi
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06 Aug 2014 07:09 PM
"I'm pretty sure that unnecessary roughness has always been an enforceable rule, it just wasn't always enforced"

unnecessary roughness is a cheap rule

like if i see a lineman get pegged from the side by a o-linemen blindsiding him nothing gets called but if you see a qb get rekt like a split second after he throws the ball it gets called cause the QB and WRs are a bunch of sissy losers who can't take a hit
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KingIceFinnI is not online. KingIceFinnI
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06 Aug 2014 07:24 PM
> its called Passing Interference



That means hitting the receiver before catching the ball. I'm talking about hitting the receiver like right when he catches the ball, like you kinda timed your hit perfectly. As soon as the ball touches their hands/they clutch it, then you hit.
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XoteI is not online. XoteI
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06 Aug 2014 07:25 PM
@king

o i read that wrong lol oops

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KingIceFinnI is not online. KingIceFinnI
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06 Aug 2014 07:30 PM
@friendship



The hits I'm describing aren't unnecessary roughness. It's just simply the guy getting rekt and he was unfortunate to have received a hard hit.
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KingIceFinnI is not online. KingIceFinnI
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06 Aug 2014 07:31 PM
> like if i see a lineman get pegged from the side by a o-linemen blindsiding him nothing gets called but if you see a qb get rekt like a split second after he throws the ball it gets called cause the QB and WRs are a bunch of sissy losers who can't take a hit




Exactly. If the QB and WRs get rekt, that's like a 15 yard penalty right there.
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FriendshipExpress is not online. FriendshipExpress
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06 Aug 2014 07:43 PM
"The hits I'm describing aren't unnecessary roughness. It's just simply the guy getting rekt and he was unfortunate to have received a hard hit."

"rekt"

Sounds unnecessarily rough to get a dude's two knees to touch the ground
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KingIceFinnI is not online. KingIceFinnI
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06 Aug 2014 07:46 PM
> Sounds unnecessarily rough to get a dude's two knees to touch the ground



It wouldn't really be a tackle if his knees didn't hit the ground. Otherwise, he's still counted as up and he can still run.
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FriendshipExpress is not online. FriendshipExpress
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06 Aug 2014 07:50 PM
"It wouldn't really be a tackle if his knees didn't hit the ground."

I'm glad you understand the first basic rule of football
You're an idiot I swear, the point went right over your head
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KingIceFinnI is not online. KingIceFinnI
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06 Aug 2014 07:55 PM
> I'm glad you understand the first basic rule of football
You're an idiot I swear, the point went right over your head



Yea, I know what you're talking about when both his knees hit the ground. I agree it may hurt a little because it's rough. But football is a contact sport, and that stuff will happen.
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XoteI is not online. XoteI
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06 Aug 2014 07:57 PM
that's the point of football, being rough.
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KingIceFinnI is not online. KingIceFinnI
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06 Aug 2014 08:01 PM
I'm a running back and a linebacker. So I've had those times when I'm running near the sideline, thinking that I'll get past the dude trying to dog me. Then he pops me right out of bounds. It hurts a little bit, but not that bad,



And as a linebacker, I have chased down and popped people from across the field. And when we did Oklahoma drills and ring of fire during freshman football, I'll put you on the ground.
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FriendshipExpress is not online. FriendshipExpress
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06 Aug 2014 08:50 PM
"Yea, I know what you're talking about when both his knees hit the ground. I agree it may hurt a little because it's rough. But football is a contact sport, and that stuff will happen."

Yeah, but by definition it's unnecessary roughness
You don't absolutely need to smash into another dude
I'm not against it though, when I played football that was the whole fun on it, smashing into another and slammin' 'em to the ground
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KingIceFinnI is not online. KingIceFinnI
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06 Aug 2014 08:52 PM
> Yeah, but by definition it's unnecessary roughness
You don't absolutely need to smash into another dude
I'm not against it though, when I played football that was the whole fun on it, smashing into another and slammin' 'em to the ground



Have you ever done Oklahoma drills or Ring of Fire/Hole in the Rain?
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XoteI is not online. XoteI
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06 Aug 2014 09:18 PM
I'm a linbacker myself.

the best felling is when the whole defense misses that one guy and you pop him hard
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KingIceFinnI is not online. KingIceFinnI
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06 Aug 2014 09:21 PM
I love that feeling. Also the filling of filling the gaps. The fact that you just rekt the running back who thought he was actually gonna gain any yards when you fill right in that gap.
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